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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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barbosi

Quote from: z_p_e on May 06, 2007, 11:01:41 AM

There should be little if any magnetic field detected with this coil. If the wires are twisted before winding, there will be even less detectable field.


512340 doesn't use twisted wires, And this is for a very good reason. Tesla offers also few rough calculations. By reading the patent you'll understand why he did it this way.
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allcanadian

@zpe
What i meant by "hash" is multiple frequencies at various magnitudes, I tested the tesla pancake coil attached to the scope, attached to teslas circuit in patent 685957, attached to the scope and induced from an external coil and in an LC circuit. I would always get more "hash" at higher frequencies with teslas coil versus a regular air core bifilar coil.

The right hand rule appies to the magnetic field, the wires are in series not twisted so the induced voltage per wrap is lower, but overall induction high. The capacitance of the coil in the context operated reduces the self-induction.

What is normally ignored in coils is the field shape, If you look at the terrible image I attached you can see how at the very center of the coil the magnetic field almost chokes itself. It is forced to move through the very small area of the center---or start cutting the conductors near the center,now imagine what might happen at any given rate of oscillation?. Normal coils do not do this, as well the time function is competely ignored. Things don't happen instantly it takes time, where does the field collapse start? What is it's direction? where does it move to/from? We don't ask the right questions, we assume too much.
I always ask "why" something happens first, this answers all my questions concerning  "how" something happens.
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orosado

Quote from: z_p_e on May 09, 2007, 10:29:46 AM
Well, it would seem help is not really welcome/wanted here as my last post in response to allcanadian's went ignored. Not a big deal to me however, I have a sufficient amount on my plate already. Just thought I would try to contribute here and there.

Tesla's 00568176 does look interesting, and I may comment on this as well. Harvey Norris and Bill Alek have both analysed/commented on this patent, has anyone looked to see what they had to say about it?

Hello Darren,

Your help is indeed very much welcomed and wanted. I appreciate your input. I visit and comment on this thread as frequently as possible, but I am also deep into other subjects which take my time. Please contribute whenever you feel like it. The important thing is to maintain the path Erfinder's has set for us.

Regarding Tesla's patent #00568176, I have previously posted on this thread a link with Harvey Norris and Bill Alek's comments. I don't recall what comments were made, but you can look up my previous posts and check it out from there, it was not long ago I posted this.

Regards,
Omar

allcanadian

Here is something from russell I find interesting.
Electricity is the strain or tension set up by the two opposing desires of universal Mind thinking: the de sire for balanced action and the desire for rest. This electric universe is a complexity of strains caused by the interaction of these two opposing, interchanging electric desires. All matter is electric. All matter is conditioned into greater or lesser strains according to the intensity of desire, which is the cause of all electric strain to which it is subjected. The farther removed from rest the greater the strain or tension. That which we call high electric potential is merely great strain to maintain a condition, which is far from the condition of rest. The familiar return ball with which a child plays is a good example of electric strain. When the ball is thrown from the hand, the elastic gradually tightens to increase the tension of resistance to strain generated in the elastic. The strain continues to intensify until the ball comes to rest. When the ball returns, the strain gradually lessens until the ball again comes to rest in the child's hand. When that happens, the strain and tension have been voided. Tension has not BECOME rest, it has ceased to be.

This seems to be an important reacuring theme , two opposite potentials do not neutralize each other, they cease to be!

Electrical tensions exist only between unbalanced electrical matters in motion, which is separated from other electrical matter in motion. Wherever there is a condition of rest, electricity ceases to be. Electricity is, therefore, a dual force, which seemingly unbalances a condition of rest by dividing it into two opposite conditions and setting them in seeming motion. Interchange between the two opposites of motion voids the unbalanced condition at the end of each cycle of electric expression. As rest cannot be unbalanced save by illusion, electricity, which causes that illusion, has no existence.
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z_p_e

My mistake guys. For some reason I remembered the coil in Tesla's patent as being connected non-inductively.