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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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Grumpy

You can almost ignor the magnetic field.  There is a field in the center of the ring that wraps around the ring = this is evident when the magnetic field is closed like this.  If a consuctor is placed through the ring and the magnetic field in the ring varies - the field will induce a voltage in the conductor.  Kinda like moving a magnet along a wire.  From the polarity of this voltage - you can deduce the rotation of the current loop that creates the magnet.  This field exist for the solenoids but will be buried in the magnetic field.  I have always refered to this field in the center as the A-Field (aka "magnetic vector potential" in modern physics) and consider it primary to the magnetic field since it can exist when the magnetic field is cancelled.  Erfinder appears to take the opposite view - refering to this field as a second octave of the magnetic field.

I would venture a guess that if I can make a magnetic field rotate electrically, then I can make this center field rotate as well.  With this thought in mind, perhaps Erfinder also has a non-mechanical version.

While searching for the magnets, I'm looking into Vedic math and physics.

127.56"

(By the way, 1/22.5 is .0444444... see the repeat?)

22.4mm/25.4mm = 0.8858 x 144 = 127.56  (You went the wrong way.)

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Grumpy

Digging out the ol' Walter Russell books...

The "Devine Cosmos":

EDIT:

Are these octaves the same as the three octaves on Walter Russell's periodic chart?  I figure they must be - Tesla refered to the Aether as a "gas" and the 25 "elements" below Hydrogen would be gaseous entities.

The fields that we speak of are composed of these "gases" - whoa! Feel a little dizzy.  Lots of ideas just fellinto place.  Telsa, Keely, Reich's Orgone, etc.

Help me understand this.


It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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Grumpy

Harmonic scales (first two):

SVP Harmonic Relationships:


It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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Charlie_V

First thing I would like to say is that Grumpy, your conversion from 22.5mm to 25.4mm is wrong.  1" = 22.5mm; so if you divided these two by each other you would get 1,

1"/22.5mm = 1

Likewise, the conventional inch is 1" = 25.4mm; if you divide these two together you will get 1

1"/25.4mm = 1,

So, to find the conversion factor;

1"/22.5mm = X/25.4mm 

Simple algebra here (I do hope algebra isn't too mainstream),
X = 1in.*25.4mm/22.5mm
X = 1.28888888888888888888888888888888888888

Now, to convert 144" to conventional inches, you multiply it by our conversion factor (144*X) and that equals 162.56". 

Second, Erfinder, I know that a battery is like a capacitor.  The difference is that normal capacitors do not hold as much energy as a battery.  There are things called "super capacitors" which can hold more energy than normal capacitors (I'm not sure if they hold as much as a battery though).  I would like to know what I have posted that is "mainstream".  Do we need to come up with other names to call voltage, current, and magnetic field so that we are not "mainstream"?  My drawings are more of questions.  I'm trying to realize the greatness of this circuit, I draw pictures because a picture is worth a thousand words - and if my thinking is wrong CORRECT IT!  Don't attack me for being "mainstream" and declare my "words limit every aspect of any and everything" - WTF budday... WTF. 

QuoteCharlie_v had you really studied the drawing, you would see that the circuit immediately changes the EMF of the battery to BEMF which goes right back into the battery, and the capacitor.

Isn't that what I said?

QuoteThe induced "back EMF" of the secondaries will collapse.  Through induction, the primaries (now disconnected) will recharge the capacitor.  In this case, the permanent magnets do not supply the back EMF, they only produce a force to rotate the wheel (cutting the connection).  The back EMF is produced by the fields in the secondaries collapsing and inducing a voltage into the primaries.

I missed saying battery - it will recharge the capacitor AND battery - there, said it! 

Third, Grumpy, I don't really understand what your talking about when you say, "If a conductor is placed through the ring and the magnetic field in the ring varies - the field will induce a voltage in the conductor."  When you say conductor, do you mean the aluminum axial that the magnets are wrapped around?  Could you draw a picture of what you mean - it would be easier for me to understand.  Is it the secondaries that change the field that you talk of? Sorry, just trying to understand things here.  Thanks!

Last thing to wrap up.  Mainstream science is not 100% completely wrong.  If it was, none of us would be typing on a computer, living in a home with electricity, and reaping the benefits of indoor plumbing.  I do feel that mainstream does limit themselves creatively.  Remember, even Tesla used modern science in his research - if you don't believe me, read any number of his actual works - they sound pretty mainstream to me - just unrestricted!

Grumpy

Charlie,

At first, I too came up with 162.56", but my interpretation of the meaning of "144 22.5mm inches" would mean that the 144" is "shorter" than 144" since the inch is based on 22.5mm per inch rather than 25.4mm per inch.

22.5mm x 144" = 3240 / 25.4 = 127.56

Just a difference of interpretation...
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What I mean by a conductor is a piece of wire or other conductive object.  Here is a link to a conversation I found about it:
http://www.advancedphysics.org/forum/showthread.php?s=7a03b285c2ec2004f4ec037bfcd9b7c2&t=5907
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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