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Does the BiTT transformer of Thane Heins have those limitations ???

Started by DWP, April 19, 2013, 10:56:04 PM

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DWP

While searching for a practical free energy device I came across the BiTT and it looked promising but when I was about to build one I came across some confusing info in this document http://www.slideshare.net/ThaneCHeins/femm-bi-tt-simulation-1 
I also read some discouraging comments from other people which made me think that the BiTT is not a PRACTICAL free energy device and cannot be used to power even low power equipment  like a laptop or even a 40 Watt light bulb so here is *MY UNDERSTANDING* of the BiTT limitations PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG:



Limitation #1
Getting a high COP depends on the loads on the secondaries


Limitation #2
The load on each secondary must be equal to the load on the other


Limitation #3
All BiTT replications I've ever came across provide less than 20 Watts of free energy

Jack Noskills

I built this couple of years ago and it gave more power out than in. Same picture was in the original BiTT thread and more details there arounf page 18. Primary is in the middle and secondaries outside. There must be enough impedance in the primary so that when there is no load idle current is low. Use high number of turns or parallel tuning cap. The amount of free power is proportional to surface area of the cores. I used equal coils in all sections.

Later on I tried high frequency version using different permeability cores. I had low permeability ferrite rod core for primary and high permeability toroid for secondary. No picture available but principle is the same. It did not work, maybe permeability difference was too high, or maybe permeability has to be the same for all cores.

For high frequency this can easily be made self runner, and I would use caduceus windings for ever coil because they alone amplify power. But my skills are limited so cannot build anything complicated. Maybe a suitable driver could be taken from mobilephone charger if you can get the AC out.

TinselKoala

Quote from: Jack Noskills on April 29, 2013, 07:20:58 AM
I built this couple of years ago and it gave more power out than in.
No, it didn't.
QuoteSame picture was in the original BiTT thread and more details there arounf page 18. Primary is in the middle and secondaries outside. There must be enough impedance in the primary so that when there is no load idle current is low. Use high number of turns or parallel tuning cap. The amount of free power is proportional to surface area of the cores. I used equal coils in all sections.

Later on I tried high frequency version using different permeability cores. I had low permeability ferrite rod core for primary and high permeability toroid for secondary. No picture available but principle is the same. It did not work, maybe permeability difference was too high, or maybe permeability has to be the same for all cores.

For high frequency this can easily be made self runner,
So make a self runner then. Oh... wait..... that's right, you have no skills, you want someone else to make it for you. Too bad nobody can, even though it "can easily be made self runner."

Quoteand I would use caduceus windings for ever coil because they alone amplify power.
Prove it. Demonstrate the truth of your statement that "Caduceus windings alone amplify power."
Quote
But my skills are limited so cannot build anything complicated. Maybe a suitable driver could be taken from mobilephone charger if you can get the AC out.

And maybe not.

If your skills are limiting your performance.... practice more. Develop your skills, don't brag about your lack of them.

Jack Noskills

I made caduceus coil on a nanoperm toroid that was 170 meters long. I took AC from grid through 1 uf cap and put it through a lamp, there was not much light. Then I put this caduceous monster in between, it had about 48 ohms DC resistance. Lamp got brighter, it should have got dimmer ?

That is what I did and that is what I got. I was insane enough to build that but would not recommend to anyone. It is much easier to use high frequency and just few meters of wire to get the same effect.

This trafo above needs a push. If it was pushed with X watts, it gave 1.7 times watts out. OU is ratio determined by the ratio of core areas. I used small iron core and it limited power transfer. Easiest way to build would be to use C and E-I cores combined, MetGlass would be good.

I am trying to give people ideas, if you don't like them it is not my problem. I have no plans to go further with this, fun part is to figure it out, not make a million copies of it. Anyone is free to try and after all I see nothing new with this, it is just a different version of BiTT.

Jack Noskills

Limitation list, referring to my version,

Limitation #1
Getting a high COP depends on the loads on the secondaries

I used lots of turns on secondaries. There is secondary feedback occurring so more flux secondary can create more power it creates in the other secondary.

Limitation #2
The load on each secondary must be equal to the load on the other

Secondaries can be connected together provided that polarities match. I actually shorted one secondary and took power from one secondary only. I got more power out that way.

Limitation #3
All BiTT replications I've ever came across provide less than 20 Watts of free energy

This depends on the size of the core and number of turns. Best result is achieved using high impedance primary, lots of turns or tank circuit to block current flow at used frequency when idle. Also there has to be a push. Even if core could give 1 kw, you can take that with a COP only if primary is pushed at 1 kw.