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Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?

Started by rukiddingme, May 21, 2013, 12:06:50 AM

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lumen

"The 116-hour experiment also included a calibration of the experimental set-up without the active charge present in the E-Cat HT. In this case, no extra heat was generated beyond the expected heat from the electric input. Computed volumetric and gravimetric energy densities were found to be far above those of any known chemical source. Even by the most conservative assumptions as to the errors in the measurements, the result is still one order of magnitude greater than conventional energy sources. "

I wonder what mistake all these people are making?

Probably just some simple oversight, we all know this is impossible. Right?

profitis

@joule seeker..i do believe the effect is real but the cause is a conundrum.my theory is a 2nd law thermodynamics violation is possibly concentrating ambient heat drasticly .brian ahern of m.i.t. has similar thoughts.

TinselKoala

Ah, I dunno.
I just looked up the power analyzer because I wanted to know about the clampon "meters" mentioned in the paper.
http://www.pce-instruments.com/english/measuring-instruments/installation-tester/power-analyzer-pce-holding-gmbh-power-analyzer-pce-830-1-det_60706.htm

It's an AC meter, designed for 50 and 60 Hz AC lines, apparently. I can find no indication that the clampons can detect DC current offsets.
Technical specifications
Measurement values
Measurement ranges / resolution / accuracy
PCE-830 + PCE-6801
           Watts AC (50 or 60Hz, PF 0.5 up to 1)
5.0 to 999.9W / 0.1W / ±1% ±0.8W
     1.000 to 9.999kW / 0.001kW / ±1% ±8W
     10.00 to 99.99kW / 0.01kW / ±1% ±80W
     100.0 to 999.9kW / 0.1kW / ±1% ±0.8kW
     1000 to 9999kW / 1kW / ±1% ±8kW
PCE-830 + PCE-6801
           Current AC (50 or 60Hz, auto range select, TRMS)
0.04A to 1A / 0.001A / ±0.5% ±0.05A
     0.4A to 10.0A / 0.01A / ±0.5% ±0.05A
     4A to 100.0A / 0.1A / ±1.0% ±0.5A 
Voltage AC (50 or 60Hz, TRMS)
20.0 to 500.0V / 0.1V / ±0.5% ±5 digits
     (measure between phase and neutral)
     20.0 to 600.0V / 0.1V / ±0.5% ±5 digits
     (measure between phase and neutral)
Harmonic distortion of AC voltage
1 to 20º / 0.1% / ±1.0%
     21 to 49º / 0.1% / 4% of reading ±2.0%
     50 to 99º / 0.1% / 6% of reading ±2.0%
PCE-830 + PCE-6801
     Harmonics
of AC current in %
1 to 20º / 0.1% / ±0.2% of reading ±1.0%
     11 to 20º / 0.1% / ±2% of reading ±1.0%
     21 to 50º (A)/ 0.1% / ±5% of reading ±1.0%
     21 to 50º (mA)/ 0.1% / ±10% of reading ±1.0%
     51 to 99º / 0.1% / ±35% of reading ±1.0%
PCE-830 + PCE6801
           Power Factor (PF)
0.00 to 1.00 / 0.01 / ±0.04
PCE-830 + PCE6801
           Phase angle (Phi)
-180° to 180° / 0.1° / ±1°
PCE-830 + PCE-6801
           Total harmonic distortion
0.0 to 20.0% / 0.1% / ±1%
     20.0 to 100% / 0.1% / ±3% of reading ±5%
     100 to 999.9% / 0.1% / ±10% of reading ±10% 
Maximum measurement of AC voltage and current
50Hz / 19µS / ±5% ±30 digits
     60Hz / 16µS / ±5% ±30 digits
Peak value measurement of AC voltage and current
1.00 to 99.99 / 0.01 / ±5% ±30 digits
Frequency range in automatic mode
45 to 65Hz / 0.1Hz / 0.1Hz

minnie

Hi,
   all we need now will be to supply the power for the E-Cat from a Rosemary Ainslee device
And the sky will be the limit!
                                         John.

markdansie

Hi TK,
I see Rosemary is now being promoted by Sterling.
She sent me a lot of papers and read some but have not had time, or the expertise to offer any opinions.  There is one red flag for me with my basic knowledge....why does it only work with a battery and not a cap????


Everyone else


In regards to Rossi testing, many others on other sites including Sterling's has commented on why the testing is not up to par, including in one case some actual calculation errors using this method.  As Milehigh explained they are measuring heat not heat flow. Rossi from day one has refused scientists to do proper calmetric tests.


From a dumb ass perspective (mine)  If I had a soldering iron and applied power it would heat up but stay in a certain temperature band according to the ability to it to disperse the heat. If I turned it off it would cool down. If I put more power into it it would get hotter and may even glow red and other colors if I kept heating it at a rate faster than it could disperse the heat.
1. What is the difference from this to a Rossi Tube
2. Why does it cool down if it is past the heat thresh hold to make it so called self run.


So Far Rossi has failed to meet every promise or prediction so I am happy to have my track record compared to his anyday
Kind Regards
Mark