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Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.

Started by synchro1, June 09, 2013, 11:07:49 AM

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synchro1

Quote from: MarkE on December 26, 2014, 08:53:08 AM
Synchro1 is there a particular reason that you have chosen to play yourself as a fool?

@MarkE,

Everone knows your non stop bullshit is designed to keep people confused. I will begin to take steps to have you moderated if you keep this kind of Trolling up!

tinman

Quote from: MarkE on December 26, 2014, 08:58:20 AM
Tinman Lenz states the direction of an induced emf.  That's it.  It is Faraday's Law of Induction that states that the emf is induced.  And it is the instant that the change in flux crosses the conductor.  Eddy currents orient in such a way as to resist the change in the net field.  They would not exist but for Faraday induction.  They are not delayed.


See above for Lenz's Law. 

As to the alleged effect.  The very phenomena cited are counter examples to what you say these guys are hoping to find.
http://regentsprep.org/regents/physics/phys08/clenslaw/

Quote wikipedia-Lenz's law-->An induced electromotive force (emf) always gives rise to a current whose magnetic field opposes the original change in magnetic flux.

Quote the fredictionary.com-The principle stating that an electric current induced by a source such as a changing magnetic field always creates a counterforce opposing the force inducing it. The law accounts for such phenomena as diamagnetism and the electrical properties of inductors.


http://www.phy-astr.gsu.edu/cymbalyuk/lecture24-25a.pdf

Seems to me that most sites i look at say that it is lenz's law that states that the emf is induced,as well as the direction.

minnie




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MarkE

Quote from: tinman on December 26, 2014, 09:30:28 AM
http://regentsprep.org/regents/physics/phys08/clenslaw/

Quote wikipedia-Lenz's law-->An induced electromotive force (emf) always gives rise to a current whose magnetic field opposes the original change in magnetic flux.

Quote the fredictionary.com-The principle stating that an electric current induced by a source such as a changing magnetic field always creates a counterforce opposing the force inducing it. The law accounts for such phenomena as diamagnetism and the electrical properties of inductors.


http://www.phy-astr.gsu.edu/cymbalyuk/lecture24-25a.pdf

Seems to me that most sites i look at say that it is lenz's law that states that the emf is induced,as well as the direction.
You need to read the text of your references carefully.  They all have induced EMF due to a changing field crossing a conductor as a predicate requirement. 

Lenz was predated by Faraday.  Faraday states the induced voltage.  Lenz states only the direction of the induced voltage.

For example your wikipedia citation: 
Quote
QuoteAn induced electromotive force (emf) always gives rise to a current whose magnetic field opposes the original change in magnetic flux.
The statement begins with the stipulation of an induced EMF, and then states the orientation of that EMF.  Ditto the fredictionary citation.

tinman

Here it is plain and simple Mark. We all know what we are trying to say,as do you.
When a magnet aproaches an inductor(coil)under load,a magnetic field is produced by that inductor that apposes that of the aproaching magnet-most all the sites i visit state this under lenz's law--so we know what the hell is going on,and what we all mean here. We are trying to see if the back electromotive force (the apposing magnetic field from the inductor) can be delayed until such time as to not act against the approaching magnet of the rotor that created it in the first place-plain and simple. I have posted the links to a few site's that state that quite plainly under lenz's law,so maybe your next mission should be to get in contact with all those site's,and have them rewrite shit so as it dosnt confuse the hell out of everyone.

We know rocket science isnt really that complicated,ya just blast shit out of a small opening,and bob's ya uncle,away ya go. So why dose this have to be so hard,when all we want to do is delay the magnetic field that apposes the magnetic field that made it in the first place. I showed you scope shot's of a coil that is further away from the rotor leading in phase to that of one that is closer to the rotor,so why cant the reverse be done.