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Overunity Machines Forum



Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator

Started by hartiberlin, June 22, 2013, 03:08:34 PM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: synchro1 on June 28, 2013, 01:43:46 PM
Pirate Twinbeard measured 253 amps from his output coil spinning a 1/8" neo sphere super sonic, enough current to fry all his circuitry. Could this be cold electricity? The Micro Cosmic plenum may reach absolute zero like the Macro one in outer space. Current drawn from there may be chilled down some. Have you seen his videos?   


Go Speedracer! FlowerPower Frequency - YouTube

Garbage in, garbage out. Twinbeard clearly has never experienced a kilovolt at one amp of real current, or he is unduly impressed by peak currents that last for very short times. And I grit my teeth at the scope abuse.

I don't really trust his "three million rpm" figure either, because I know that the pulsation frequency does not necessarily correspond to the rotation frequency. Does he ever show any concurrent measurement of the actual rotation of the magnet, to prove that he's getting 3,000,000 rpm? Has anyone actually calculated the centrifugal force and belt stresses at the surface of the magnet at that rotation rate?

This forum _really_ needs more smileys.

MileHigh

You can hear whatever it is spinning in the background at certain points in the clip.  It's somewhere around 100-150 Hz to my ears.  So let's say it is 125 Hz.  That's 7500 RPM.

At 3,000,000 RPM the spinny thing would disintegrate into thousands of tiny spears of shrapnel and spray you like a Tesla shotgun.

http://www.youtube.com/movie/hellraiser-revelations?feature=mv_sr


conradelektro

Both, the Germans (see the videos in the first post of this thread) and Twinbeard have a way of presenting their set up, circuit and results which is very hard to understand. Also the web sites are of limited help.

I do not think they want to hide something, it is just their way of doing things. Let's say, it is very unscientific.

It is absolutely not clear how much power is put in and what comes out. It is not even clear how the power comes out. The circuits show several ways of "power out" like charging a battery, charging capacitors, full diode bridge. All at the same time?

It might be interesting to build such a "ball magnet spinner" and to do proper measurements. Also the drive circuit could be enhanced in the direction of less power draw. The Germans went in this direction by separating the trigger coil from the drive coil (which could lower the losses through the well adapted number of windings for the trigger coil). May be a Hall sensor could allow more precise switching. Where to put the Hall sensor?

Both, Twinbeard and the Germans place the generator coil at about the same place (on top or below the drive coil).

The "ball magnet" seems to spin exactly in the centre of the drive coil. Twinbeard has "holder" for the ball magnet, the Germans seem to trap it inside a tube (and smaller inner tube, so that the ball magnet does not fall through).

Well, lots of questions, no precise measurements.

Greetings, Conrad


MileHigh

I read Twinbeard's description of the FlowerPower device and looked at the schematic.  It's just a variation on a ball-spinner Bedini motor where he adds transformer couplings and stuff like that.

However, here is the most important point:  What he says in his write up is junked-up with a mish-mash of Voodoo electronics superstitions and cockamamie nonsense.  He is seemingly not aware of that and thinks he is doing really well for himself.

Here is the problem in a nutshell:  Joe Blow off the street wanders into a five-star French haute cuisine restaurant.  The owner runs up to him and says, "Our principal chef just had a car accident and we have a big banquet tonight, can we hire you for the position?"  The Joe Blow would say, "No!  Are you kidding, I can barely cook hot dogs!"  Same Joe Blow off the street wanders into an electronics lab and sees a scope and some coils and MOSFETs and says, "Hey!  I am going to design and build a free energy machine!"  Even though his total electronics experience amounts to changing the batteries in his flashlight, he seems to have no problem talking like he knows what he is talking about.  He saw it on YouTube so he is now an expert.

This phenomenon is very strange indeed.

Synchro1, if I met Twinbeard and we started doing stuff together on his bench with his ordinary and slightly funky pulse motor, I would spin circles around poor Twinbeard to the point that his jaw would permanently drop and he would be in shock.  Twinbeard barely knows what he is doing, which is not a problem at all.  However, the serious major problem is that he thinks he knows what he is doing.  At the same time I can't believe that he is so stupid that he is not on some level self-aware that he is just a Joe Blow off the street that barely knows anything about electronics.  This might be some kind of suppressed self-awareness phenomenon associated with free energy experimenters in electronics.

So that was a soap box rant, and a justified one.  You don't want to get a lethal shock or rip your hand apart with shrapnel, now do you?  I have met experimenters online that very clearly barely have a clue and they believe all sorts of Voodoo electronics nonsense and within a short while they tell me that they don't have time to "teach" me.

It's like taking a New Zealand sheep farmer and putting him in the soybean pit of the Chicago mercantile exchange - it just doesn't work.