New Perm Mag Engine Design 1.5 : 1 Ratio (work from magnets)

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Hi floor,
this is great that you are building a new test rig, looking forward for the results.

I'm determined to have something working as well,
already bought a coil and want to buy a large magnet or two ( 3" dia x 2").
My main concern is a safety in working with such a powerful magnets, not even sure
I will be able to combine them together, if needed.
I have a mechanical engineering background, can work with Solidworks.

[Floor]

@Telecom

I think that it is possible, that under some conditions OU  results may require a certain minimum of size and strength of magnets.
Of course, if one has a self looped device, that is delivering a percentage of excess energy,  on might reasonably expect bigger magnets to give a bigger excess. 

In general, I think that what will work with large or powerful magnets, will also work with smaller magnets.  For purposes of testing and experimentation, and to save on costs I use cheap ceramic magnets.  But the strong magnets sure are fun to play with. Be aware that they can chip or even shatter if they collide. It's a real heart breaker to loose an expensive magnet this way. The risks can tend to take the fun out of playing around with them.  Best of luck to you.  Let me Know as things progress.

                                             Cheers
                                                 floor

[telecom]

i keep wondering why to none of our scientists ( millions of them) didn't come an idea to make an experiment similar to yours.There is something wrong here...

Now, after your experiment, I'm also thinking to switch to smaller magnets, since it appears that the sideway attraction ( repulsion) has better results than the axial. In this case it would be natural to use a rotational rather than reciprocational motion the

Btw, it would be easy to integrate the curve once we could fit some kind of an equation for your graph, perhaps parabolic?

[Floor]

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I have also wondered that / if some other person had tried this mag. field arrangement before. I have never seen it before.  That is part of the reason, I thought it was worth exploring. 

No one at OU has come forward to say they "have seen it before". 

Nearly all experimenters I have observed in my examinations, appeared to me, to be way too preoccupied with

1. The conservation of energy, usually by conservation of momentum through rotation.
2. The use of stronger and stronger magnets.
3. Alignments that use only the most powerful attracting or repelling potential, ie. more or less direct north to south alignments.
     I guess that even scientists tend to get stuck on "bigger is better.
4. I don't know.

I don't understand "BTW". does this mean the best of two worlds?  Engineering mathematics is not among my skills. I am really just beginning it as a study.  Correct me if I am wrong, but as I understand it, the curves in my graphs and the areas under the curves, can give only an approximation of the forces.  The correct equation will reveal a much more accurate value for those forces ?   As to what equation best fits the purpose, I don't even know where to begin.

                                                     Cheers
                                                          floor

[Floor]

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                           PS

I had originally thought that the SL (sliding) forces would be stronger than the RO (rotational). My projections were in part  based upon the fact that my first measurements were only of the total weights needed to "close the gap by rotation as opposed to by sliding.  These measurements  were greater than 1. 5 : 1.  The 1.5 being the sliding force and the 1, being the rotational force.  After modifying the measuring device for the next set of measurements (addition of the 0 to 90 degree scales), It was shown that the RO forces are in fact greater than the SL.  How unexpected and odd !

                                                             floor