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Overunity Machines Forum



another Self looped Generator Claim

Started by markdansie, August 05, 2013, 08:50:24 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: markdansie on August 07, 2013, 08:23:36 PM
Hi TK
they are going to disconnect the batteries once the flywheel is run up.
That leads to the bleeding obvious question, are they going to monitor the flywheel slowing down when they put the load on? And how?
Kind Regards
Are you sure? What I read said that they would disconnect the _starter_ once it is run up.

If they do disconnect the batteries completely, and there's no capacitor bank, then it isn't going to run very long regardless of the load. That is _not_ a big sophisticated low-dissipation energy storage flywheel in there, it is a kludged contraption with belts and pulleys. Listen to it! It can't even get out of its own way.

If they are using 8 batteries and the 1000 CCA, 60 A-H guess is close to correct, then they should be able to run 15 kW of load for twenty minutes or so if they are running on batteries alone. Ballpark.

I think in the video they attempted to show a stroboscopic light illuminating a marker on the flywheel, but who knows. I would certainly demand that the RPM of the flywheel be monitored throughout the experiment/demonstration, by an optical tachometer in the hands of someone who knew how to use it.

Pirate88179

Correct me if I am wrong here but, I think that the flywheel, not unlike the batteries, is just another energy storage device, only with drains due to air resistance and mechanical friction.  Whatever energy is imparted to the flywheel to spin it up and maintain its rpm, will be more than can ever be drained from it.  It seems to me that they would be better off just adding another battery and eliminating the flywheel.

Did I miss where they "claim" the extra energy comes from with this system?  I watched the video but, if not for TK's transcript, I would not have had a clue as to what was supposed to have been demonstrated.

I just hope that Gary's website provider's servers are ready for the load they will see once the show begins.  I have the time marked on my calender and my popcorn will be ready.  I just hope that Sterling plays this one straight.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

markdansie

Hi Bill
you are right
the fly wheel if connected to a generator will slow down as soon as you put some decent load on it, and you will never get more out than put in.
Sterling play it straight? Never he has ignored all of this good advice as he always does.
He has also taken money form an investor peddling this BS, when there is not one ounce of credibility. To be honest Sterling is not the innocent cheer leader he pretends. Look at all the people here who can not post there anymore. The only suppression is on his side.
I have on many occasions seen him straight out tell lies to teh public.
He biggest problem is omitting all the evidence and just presenting what fits his story. (how is Yiltidz going his last big thing and thirty reason why it works?)
This is Mylow 2. The deluded being examined by the insane.
Gary is ok, it brings traffic to him and he lets the reader make up their own mind.
Kind Regards
Mark


TinselKoala

QuoteAug. 8, 3 am Mountain [GMT-6] update: as of 10 pm Eastern last night, Chuck reported a problem with his system, and as of 7 hours since then, he has given no further updates; so I canceled my flight. However, if he does get it going in time for the SmartScarecrow show tonight, and he has a functional webcam, he may yet do a demo tonight. Also another associate is presently scheduled to arrive Saturday night, and Chuck could do a demo for him, if he has his system running by then. -- Sterling


Have we made up our own minds yet?

TinselKoala

Hey Sterling....

I think YOU need to hire a good consultant with a proven track record in evaluating claims like this one. Just to get a preliminary, go-nogo kind of evaluation, so that you and your principals don't waste time and money like you have been doing lately.

I know of one who has been in the field since 1999 at least, who has saved investors literally millions of dollars so far (details on request), and who is available for a reasonable consulting fee. And he has never once been wrong in his evaluations! No device that he has evaluated and turned down, has ever proven actually to be overunity! What's your track record in that regard?

Here, I'll give you this much for free:

This present fiasco could have been avoided by someone first doing a couple of hours of internet research, to find that there is no patent, there is no PhD from any accredited institution, there is no ESA report and the story that is being told is incredible. Stop right there, and demand that the claimant provide proof for the assertions made so far. If he cannot.... why go any further? Why schedule a demonstration, make airline reservations, get Hendershot all hot and bothered when the claimant is evidently lying from square one?
Once the claimant provides proof of the early assertions, particularly the ESA report, then we could do a live Skype call where the cooperative claimant performs some interactive tests and demonstrations, very simple, with rented test equipment if there isn't appropriate kit on hand. No site visit is yet necessary. If this phase is passed unequivocally, THEN one might be interested in making an airline reservation and doing a site visit. ONLY AFTER THIS SITE VISIT should public demonstrations, interviews, etc. even be talked about, much less scheduled!

Of course following this plan would mean that you don't get to travel around nearly as much, like to see Yildiz and have your little Alpine vacation at the expense of your fans. But if money is important to you or your investors at all.... they might do well to consider what I am telling you.