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Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

Started by hanon, August 13, 2013, 08:01:16 PM

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Pirate88179

Quote from: e2matrix on August 18, 2013, 05:17:15 PM
Was it TK that wanted suits and ties?   If it will make you feel better here you go:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsPeceaPTUo
Well suits and one tie any way ....   and a bit more measuring equipment   ;)

No, we need to see lab coats.  Without lab coats there is no credibility at all.  That's just the way it is.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

hanon

From this link: http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/Chapt3.html   the description about patent WO2013104042 :

"The earth wire (5, shown in blue) which is merely wrapped around wire 4 and not directly connected to it as the electron-transfer link is by induction.  With this arrangement, the current circulating in the closed loop wire 4, attracts more electrons from the ground, flowing through the wrapped connection of wire 5, into wire 4, increasing the current flow there by a major amount.  Wire 3 (input) can have an alternating voltage applied to it in order to get alternating current in wire 4 (output), but understand that the current flowing in wire 4 is not the result of the current in wire 3".

TinselKoala

Forget the suits and ties. I want to see the "1000 amp" circuit blow a 100 Amp fuse.

TinselKoala

Quote from: hanon on August 18, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
From this link: http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/Chapt3.html   the description from the patent:

The earth wire (5, shown in blue) which is merely wrapped around wire 4 and not directly connected to it as the electron-transfer link is by induction.  With this arrangement, the current circulating in the closed loop wire 4, attracts more electrons from the ground, flowing through the wrapped connection of wire 5, into wire 4, augmenting the current flow there by a major amount.  Wire 3 can have an alternating voltage applied to it in order to get alternating current in wire 4, but please understand that the current flowing in wire 4 is not the result of the current in wire 3.

Is there anyone anywhere that actually believes this? I sure don't.  It would be very easy to demonstrate this, if it were true. Me doing it, or not, will have no value. So let's see someone else, please, just perform this "principle experiment". Show a current in the Wire 5, which is merely wrapped around but not connected to Wire 4, separated by insulation as the sketch shows. Show how the final output of the device depends on whether or not the blue wire is connected to an earth ground or not. Further, power the input by AC from an inverter connected to batteries, and go pull the house mains breakers or service disconnect, all three phases. Does the device still operate as claimed?

Three simple, quick tests that would take at most an hour to perform and video, and that would actually provide some real proof of something unusual and interesting. Three tests we will _never_  actually see performed.

a.king21

Quote from: TinselKoala on August 18, 2013, 08:31:10 PM
Is there anyone anywhere that actually believes this? I sure don't.  It would be very easy to demonstrate this, if it were true. Me doing it, or not, will have no value. So let's see someone else, please, just perform this "principle experiment". Show a current in the Wire 5, which is merely wrapped around but not connected to Wire 4, separated by insulation as the sketch shows. Show how the final output of the device depends on whether or not the blue wire is connected to an earth ground or not. Further, power the input by AC from an inverter connected to batteries, and go pull the house mains breakers or service disconnect, all three phases. Does the device still operate as claimed?

Three simple, quick tests that would take at most an hour to perform and video, and that would actually provide some real proof of something unusual and interesting. Three tests we will _never_  actually see performed.
Well this is the crux of the whole patent. They claim to have found a new effect. So you should be quite capable of disproving this yourself and putting out a video. - Seeing as you are KING of the nay-sayers. So prove to us all that it doesn't work !
Will you?