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Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

Started by hanon, August 13, 2013, 08:01:16 PM

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forest

Hmm, I think the Truth is no so easy.Electron trap is kind of trick to avoid correct answer , while of course it's partially correct....it's hard to explain without going into details. However it's not  because ground electrons  have no energy. They have a lot.  Another point is misconception of ground  ,it is not the same ground concept you think of.
The closest to the answer is Fabrice Andre (sure he is still silent about the details).  Watch his video and see the answer (if you can catch it, because it's not obvious)

MenofFather

Quote from: TinselKoala on August 18, 2013, 08:31:10 PM
Is there anyone anywhere that actually believes this? I sure don't.  It would be very easy to demonstrate this, if it were true. Me doing it, or not, will have no value. So let's see someone else, please, just perform this "principle experiment". Show a current in the Wire 5, which is merely wrapped around but not connected to Wire 4, separated by insulation as the sketch shows. Show how the final output of the device depends on whether or not the blue wire is connected to an earth ground or not. Further, power the input by AC from an inverter connected to batteries, and go pull the house mains breakers or service disconnect, all three phases. Does the device still operate as claimed?

Three simple, quick tests that would take at most an hour to perform and video, and that would actually provide some real proof of something unusual and interesting. Three tests we will _never_  actually see performed.
If wire conected to ground, not looped, then if energy going from ground, then input must also curent be not 0.1 A, but if load use let say 10 amps, then and input curent must be 12-10 amps, but not 0.1 amps.
Если даже земляной провод не обкручен, а с медью соединён со 4 проводом, том несколько витков толстым, высокоамперным, всё равно тогда получаеться что ток идёт напрямую от фазы с землёй, но тогда токовые клещи бы и должны показать 10-20 ампер, сколько там нагрузка, а не 0,1 ампер. Но нужно оба провода выходные из розетки проверить и если у обоих будет около 0,1 ампер, а нагрузка будет 1 киловатт к примеру, то уже есть свободная энергия и не важно, повторяюсь идёт ли к земле напрямую или нет, да это в какой-то мере не честно, но это всё равно мизер эта нечестносьт, потому что такого не должно быть даже если это нечестно.

MenofFather

How I understand output is 26 amps and 220 volts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRSP7h73u-Q 2:34. It 5720 watts. Input is 22 watts.
But it only meashure neutral 0.1 A. 2:54
He must measure and fase. Blue wire usualy is neutral. If in fase be 26-27 amps, then it means that were no free energy. Если он бы померил не неутраль, а фазу и там будет 26 ампер, тогда тут нет свободной энергии.

baroutologos

Quote from: forest on August 19, 2013, 04:20:26 AM
Hmm, I think the Truth is no so easy.Electron trap is kind of trick to avoid correct answer , while of course it's partially correct....it's hard to explain without going into details. However it's not  because ground electrons  have no energy. They have a lot.  Another point is misconception of ground  ,it is not the same ground concept you think of.
The closest to the answer is Fabrice Andre (sure he is still silent about the details).  Watch his video and see the answer (if you can catch it, because it's not obvious)


The  frenchman discovered Kapanadze method for lighing lamps? In other words, talking, showing junk and use of a ground wire?
OMG, i must go in business with those setups. It seems to be plenty of fools around. I guess my first steps would be to get viewers and then followers!


ops... i compromised my plan!


ps: seems i have too much free time since in vocations :P

tagor

Quote from: forest on August 19, 2013, 04:20:26 AM
Hmm, I think the Truth is no so easy.Electron trap is kind of trick to avoid correct answer , while of course it's partially correct....it's hard to explain without going into details. However it's not  because ground electrons  have no energy. They have a lot.  Another point is misconception of ground  ,it is not the same ground concept you think of.
The closest to the answer is Fabrice Andre (sure he is still silent about the details).  Watch his video and see the answer (if you can catch it, because it's not obvious)

I am sure that fabrice andre does not understand electronics ... so it is a scam ... or
it is the device of another guy and so : it could be "the closest to the answer"