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Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

Started by hanon, August 13, 2013, 08:01:16 PM

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Pirate88179

Quote from: NickZ on May 13, 2015, 01:18:13 AM
   "Notice that the students said they have gone five months without discharging the battery."

    The rest is speculation.  As that also means, that they ran it for that long without ever having to do any additional charging.
    Time will tell.
    But, why do we need to assume something doesn't work as shown, until it's proven that it does.
    Can't we just take it with a grain of sand until proven one way or the other?

It's all speculation as the translations are totally butchered.  Why do they need a spark ignition?  Do other electric bikes have that?  They also said they went 60kph but, with those small wheels, others translated that as having gone 60 km. (distance, not speed)

I am assuming nothing other than it is not self-sustaining which is obvious, unless, you think my car battery being 5 years old is self sustaining like I said.  They do not explain the solar cells either.  Read the various translations and you will see some conflicting data which is understandable.  I am not saying they are lying or it is a scam, I am just saying it is not what is being reported.

We can't assume it works as shown as it is not really demonstrated, but explained using translations for English and therefore we really do not know what they are meaning.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

tesletic

Thank you all for the replies, highly appreciated  ;)

I will stick to my old idea using compressed air that seems to be for the moment realistic and as you can see in the link already proven to work although not by not using electricity but powering it directly witch is OK but then you have to buy their motor and it is not a bicycle !
http://media.drive.com.au/cars/car-news/motorbike-that-runs-on-air-2797531.html

I would like to use AIR as temporarily storage capacity for electric energy as there is an enormous amount of energy available for example going downhill and mostly lost ! Yes I know regenerative braking but it is only a small amount that go's back because batteries are to slow unless they will release this new aluminum batteries ! 

In terms of my bike project will try to use a small combination of lithium batteries & capacitors (boostcap) & a small compressed air motor-generator that provided more then 1KW electric power on demand in real time using previous mentioned setup that will only be used as buffer to run a 5KW HUB motor ! Hoping to have some budget for this by selling my Jeep  ;D as it is here just standing most of the time ! These days a carbon FAT-BIKE are not that cheap even getting the frame from China!

Anyway will be posting my findings here that's for sure. carpediem  :)
https://twitter.com/thevoice4you_

mscoffman

Quote from: tesletic on May 13, 2015, 04:22:13 AM
Thank you all for the replies, highly appreciated  ;)

I will stick to my old idea using compressed air that seems to be for the moment realistic and as you can see in the link already proven to work although not by not using electricity but powering it directly witch is OK but then you have to buy their motor and it is not a bicycle !
http://media.drive.com.au/cars/car-news/motorbike-that-runs-on-air-2797531.html

I would like to use AIR as temporarily storage capacity for electric energy as there is an enormous amount of energy available for example going downhill and mostly lost ! Yes I know regenerative braking but it is only a small amount that go's back because batteries are to slow unless they will release this new aluminum batteries ! 

In terms of my bike project will try to use a small combination of lithium batteries & capacitors (boostcap) & a small compressed air motor-generator that provided more then 1KW electric power on demand in real time using previous mentioned setup that will only be used as buffer to run a 5KW HUB motor ! Hoping to have some budget for this by selling my Jeep  ;D as it is here just standing most of the time ! These days a carbon FAT-BIKE are not that cheap even getting the frame from China!

Anyway will be posting my findings here that's for sure. carpediem  :)
https://twitter.com/thevoice4you_

One way of using air is by providing a weather forecast that allows the bike to charge air when air temperature
is in the cold part of the day then recharge the battery when air temperature is high the difference in
temperature translates to a difference in pressure. This method was in use in mining air powered trains
during late 1800's

..S..MarkSCoffman

Pirate88179

Quote from: mscoffman on May 13, 2015, 12:27:12 PM
One way of using air is by providing a weather forecast that allows the bike to charge air when air temperature
is in the cold part of the day then recharge the battery when air temperature is high the difference in
temperature translates to a difference in pressure. This method was in use in mining air powered trains
during late 1800's

..S..MarkSCoffman

Good idea.  Also maybe a small compressor (like he said) on board running off of solar when parked to top off the tanks with a pressure on/off switch.  I would not mind if my air tanks were slowly filling all day while I was at work, and it costs me nothing.  Cloudy days...plug it in or walk I suppose.  India has had air powered cars for sometime now I believe.  I remember reading about them a few years back.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

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