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Overunity Machines Forum



Tinman's Rotary Transformer

Started by tim123, September 02, 2013, 03:23:33 AM

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woopy

Hi Tim And TinMan

thank's for sharing

OK i have found a suitable motor for beginning the experiment

1- The motor spins under 240 volts as normal (it is a domestic "hacheur " for vegetables .

2- it spins under 36 volts DC on the brushes only (without any connection to the stator coils )

3- it spins with 36 volts DC connected directly to the brushes and stator coils as a normal AC connection ??

4-it spins when i connect the motor to my variac and from very low up to full 230  voltage.

5- it spins when i connect the motor to my variac but through a full wave bridge rectifier. (without smoothing cap)

So Tinman please post a shematic to let me go inside your project

Of course if you wish

Thank's

Laurent

Magluvin

Quote from: tim123 on September 03, 2013, 02:53:00 PM
Here's an idea... Using the same principle, but with PMs to polarise the rotor segments...

- The stator & PM are all fixed.
- The rotor is just magnetic steel segments
- The rotor segments extend the field of the PM they are over
- When the segment crosses the center-line / change-over point it loses/changes it's polarity, just like in the powered version.
- The coil / stator reacts just the same - with a pulsing field.
- So the stator attracts & repels the rotor segments - as if it was powered.

What do you think? :)

From what I understood about this, the armature is a carrier of the pulsed dc from 1 stator to the other, by which when the output stator was loaded, the motor ran better than if the stator was open. If the rotor is just PMs, the pulses from the stator are not going to get to the output stator. The output stator will only get induced by the rotor magnets moving like a normal gen. In that case, loading the output stator would slow the motor down, except under special conditions.

Also, if you were to 'look' at the magnetic poles of the wired rotor while running, they will not rotate around the rotor, at least not all the way. This is what the commutator and brushes accomplish is maintaining particular magnetic poles in particular positions on the rotor in reference to the stators polls, to maintain a constant torque to the rotor. So mags on the rotor wont work. Unless you redesign the motor to do so. ;D

Mags

gotoluc

Quote from: Magluvin on September 03, 2013, 08:41:01 PM
Magnets on the rotor wont work. Unless you redesign the motor to do so. ;D

Mags

Hi mags and all,

Some months ago, when I first saw TinMan's rotary transformer I joined his site and posted on the topic that when I have time I would like to work with him to see if we could use his effect on my Mostly Magnet Motor design.

You maybe familiar with my design and I know Tim is.  Do you think TinMan's effect could be used to improve on my motor design?

Anyone can share their thoughts

Thanks

Luc

Magluvin

Quote from: gotoluc on September 03, 2013, 09:12:48 PM
Hi mags and all,

Some months ago, when I first saw TinMan's rotary transformer I joined his site and posted on the topic that when I have time I would like to work with him to see if we could use his effect on my Mostly Magnet Motor design.

You maybe familiar with my design and I know Tim is.  Do you think TinMan's effect could be used to improve on my motor design?

Anyone can share their thoughts

Thanks

Luc

Hey Luc

Maybe try replacing the magnet with a coil. Coil vs Coil.   By being able to turn off the magnets can be advantageous, especially if having to try and release pm magnetic pull after a magnetic event with cores and such.

What might be interesting is to have a coil on a pole of a magnet and see how much the other pole flexes due to influence of the coil.  Im sure it does, but maybe more restrained than a normal core.


Mags

gotoluc

Quote from: Magluvin on September 03, 2013, 10:01:00 PM
Hey Luc

Maybe try replacing the magnet with a coil. Coil vs Coil.   By being able to turn off the magnets can be advantageous, especially if having to try and release pm magnetic pull after a magnetic event with cores and such.

What might be interesting is to have a coil on a pole of a magnet and see how much the other pole flexes due to influence of the coil.  Im sure it does, but maybe more restrained than a normal core.


Mags

Hi Mags,

thanks for the reply.

From what you have written I feel you may not understand my motor design or have forgotten how it works!  as there is NO " release pm magnetic pull after a magnetic event with cores and such"

Here is the most up to date video. Have a look and let me know what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eTQ49RcFKM

Thanks

Luc