Proof of Overunity From Magnets Fixture, No Negative Work Aspect, LaFonte

[norman6538]

Butch you have demonstrated the principles of turning permanent magnets off and on and THAT IS GREAT but that is worth nothing unless they can do  net work beyond the switching work required. So now you need to prove that you have net work done. The easiest way to do that with no arguments is to for example using inch pounds instead of foot pounds

1. take 1 lb of weight on a string and have it move one of your principle embodiments to turn on a magnetic field (switching work used here) which in turn
2. moves another weight a distance that is greater than the 1lb weight moved. Or if the distance is less then the weight could be correspondingly more but greater than  1 inch pound of work used to switch the magnet on or off.

And that would be exciting
BUT then you need to be able to reverse that (ie reset) using the net gained work to make a
repeatable cycle. So if 1lb moves 1 inch and lifts 5 lbs 1/2  inch you have now have a net work
available of 1.5 inch lb. to do the reset of the 1lb mover.

Had I been able to do the above test everyone would have seen the video by now.

You have the embodiments, now do the simple tests and publish the results.
But you may not use a hand except to start the process because the hand is not measurable.

An example of the reset problem would be using a magnet on a matchbox car that is moved with a small weight which then knocks over a domino doing some lifting which knocks over a larger domino and so on but then how do you reset all of that to repeat the cycle without some outside power?

Norman

[tim123]

Hi Bruce
  I've been thinking about how to make use of your idea, and attached is a diagram of a piston motor that perhaps could work using the principle.

It's just a schematic...
- Would probably not want iron below the piston?
- Would need magnets on the other side too - so the flux flows through the iron (I think)
- Would need a pendulum magnet on both sides (connected via a shaft)

Regards
Tim

PS - To be quite honest, I don't know if it would work better with magnets both sides or not... It may be worse... Opposing magnets each side maybe?

Bruce, have you tested these 3 arrangements against each other?
- single magnets on one side
- attracting magnets through the metal
- repelling magnets " " "

[Low-Q]

Hi Bruce
  I've been thinking about how to make use of your idea, and attached is a diagram of a piston motor that perhaps could work using the principle.

It's just a schematic...
- Would probably not want iron below the piston?
- Would need magnets on the other side too - so the flux flows through the iron (I think)
- Would need a pendulum magnet on both sides (connected via a shaft)

Regards
Tim

PS - To be quite honest, I don't know if it would work better with magnets both sides or not... It may be worse... Opposing magnets each side maybe?

Bruce, have you tested these 3 arrangements against each other?
- single magnets on one side
- attracting magnets through the metal
- repelling magnets " " "

The problem occours when the piston isn't there, leaving an air gap. The moving magnet will therfor resist the exit of the block in order to move into the air gap and pull the piston back in.


Vidar

[tim123]

The problem occours when the piston isn't there, leaving an air gap. The moving magnet will therfor resist the exit of the block in order to move into the air gap and pull the piston back in.

Vidar

Hi Vidar
  I think, according to my interpretation of Bruce's idea, that:
- the piston should be drawn inwards when the moving magnet is over the block.
- and should move outwards when the moving magnet is over the piston.
- the piston throw must be short enough so it doesn't move past the moving magnet - so the magnet is always over steel.

It's just an idea though...

Regards
Tim

[gammarayburst]

See attached