Building a self looping "SMOT"

[Michael Q Shaw]

It does work, and MileHigh, you appear to be the biggest skeptic on here, it works bottom line and yes, you can in fact build a magnetic propulsion ramp, call them a SMOT if you will, that can lift to a higher level and then release.  While building my ramps I found, for any of the real builders out there, that they can operate in both directions, just like a spring and bounce back and forth until all energy is spent, not if you drop it out and continue to another.  "Sticky spot" or so called "gate" is not a problem, all you must do is avoid any "Gates" .   Run a V-Gate in reverse and escape at the opening of the V where the field becomes increasingly weaker.  The only reason I placed them so far apart on my two interconnected tracks is because both tracks have a tendency of slamming together if they are too close together, of course, there are so many magnets on there!  It is possible to connect them and to continue on.  If you also note in my videos, the only time the run fouls is when my assistant daughter's hand fouls the run, it never failed at the second drop off when properly placed in the starting position.  I made one work over nine feet long and so called "Gates" did not stop me.  I am still building my 4 foot ramp and I will post a video that shows that achieving a higher level after exit (hlae) is certainly possible.  Call me crazy all you people want, I am very sane, I know it works, my children and my wife know it works, I have seen it with my own eyes.  I know I can connect them and make them continue on, and I will not stop building them until I have proven it.  I know that I can build it to continue on.  Don't give up everyone, I'm not.

[TinselKoala]

It does work, and MileHigh, you appear to be the biggest skeptic on here, it works bottom line and yes, you can in fact build a magnetic propulsion ramp, call them a SMOT if you will, that can lift to a higher level and then release.  While building my ramps I found, for any of the real builders out there, that they can operate in both directions, just like a spring and bounce back and forth until all energy is spent, not if you drop it out and continue to another.  "Sticky spot" or so called "gate" is not a problem, all you must do is avoid any "Gates" .   Run a V-Gate in reverse and escape at the opening of the V where the field becomes increasingly weaker.  The only reason I placed them so far apart on my two interconnected tracks is because both tracks have a tendency of slamming together if they are too close together, of course, there are so many magnets on there!  It is possible to connect them and to continue on.  If you also note in my videos, the only time the run fouls is when my assistant daughter's hand fouls the run, it never failed at the second drop off when properly placed in the starting position.  I made one work over nine feet long and so called "Gates" did not stop me.  I am still building my 4 foot ramp and I will post a video that shows that achieving a higher level after exit (hlae) is certainly possible.  Call me crazy all you people want, I am very sane, I know it works, my children and my wife know it works, I have seen it with my own eyes.  I know I can connect them and make them continue on, and I will not stop building them until I have proven it.  I know that I can build it to continue on.  Don't give up everyone, I'm not.

When will you be showing us your self-looping model that runs all by itself once started?

Never, that's when.  That's what is generally meant when we say "IT WORKS" with reference to a SMOT. Having a ball or magnet end up higher after a PARTIAL CYCLE is easy to do. Where is your video of a complete cycle that completes with more energy than it started with, and thus can be self-looped? There isn't one. Not from you, not from elecar, not from JLN, not from Omnibus not from anybody.

Well, there is always Mylow, I guess.

[minnie]

Hi,
  nice little clip of Travis. I presume that's him himself. A long while ago he had a drawing of one
of his mahines running a local church or something. One aspect that he'd got really right was
the provision of an adequate cooling system for the fluid system!
   When I was eight years old I tried for ages to get a self runner using a great big magnet and
abandoned the idea when I had no success. Now about sixty years later I see people are still
trying.
      I'm surprised at some ideas some people have about permanent magnets and I feel that
they should do a bit more studying and thinking before trying to argue their case.
  Gravity machines, if there was any chance of them working, would have to be absolutely
colossal because the acceleration is so poor, you just couldn't get a decent rate of doing work.
   I have for a long time thought that a good electrical storage battery is the way to go. Most
of us have a huge amount of energy from the sun and solar cells are getting better all the time.
A battery needs to be developed that has 25 year lifespan and could be buried in the garden
store energy while we're out at work in the day or off peak grid and be there for us at night.
                John.

[MeggerMan]

@Michael,
I suspect you need to have a complete looping device even if you can prove the exit point is higher than the insertion point because there is an effect that no-one seems to have mentioned yet.
I seem to remember and I could be wrong but way back when Greg Watson was building the original SMOT device he or someone else noticed that the steel ball bearing undergoes a very slight repulsion before it enters the magnetic field array that pulls it up the ramp.
I think this has something to do with the magnetic field from the array causing the ball to be slightly magnetised and creating a very slight repulsive force between itself and the array.
So by placing the ball bearing inside the magnetic field of the array, just ahead of the ramp, you have already given the ball a head start in terms of magnetic potential energy.  Therefore you need sufficient slope or momentum to get past this sticky insertion point.


All the negative views here are not stopping me from experimenting with this.
Its a good engineering challenge and hopefully within the scope of most people to be able to be built with basic tools.


Meggerman

[Michael Q Shaw]

When will you be showing us your self-looping model that runs all by itself once started?

Never, that's when.  That's what is generally meant when we say "IT WORKS" with reference to a SMOT. Having a ball or magnet end up higher after a PARTIAL CYCLE is easy to do. Where is your video of a complete cycle that completes with more energy than it started with, and thus can be self-looped? There isn't one. Not from you, not from elecar, not from JLN, not from Omnibus not from anybody.

Well, there is always Mylow, I guess.

Never say never,  I am still actively working on it.  Even then a self looped SMOT would only have the amount of "energy" that you "built" into it, plus what is given initially by placement to begin its operation,  getting it to self loop is possible, but if you try to take much energy away from it yes, it more than likely will stop.  The only possible manner to get anything out of it would be during the portion of operation when it is driven by the magnetic fields, yes like a sling shot, at least that is how mine operate, and they release just fine.  For instance, my 1/2 inch lift track is made with enough strength to lift up to 3/4 inches, you must purposely build them stronger and extend them beyond the point of exit for a smooth disconnect.  I will one day, before life escapes me.  I honestly believe that four of my 4 foot tracks connected in a square will prove the operation best, then using clear rubber tubing curved into the starting position of the next ramp, in that manner the ball will already begin rolling in the new direction of travel of the next ramp on the downward roll -because it cannot cross the magnetic field of the adjoining ramp, hence why I made my video with a right angle, it gets stuck on it otherwise, so no after looking at drawings of 2 four foot tracks side by side or even three in a triangle may work. Yes it does work, and yes... you can successfully connect them.  I am not Mylow and I am not "faking" my results.  Thank you for the chide though, I am getting used to it by now.