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Pantiuchov selfrunning divice (shematic)

Started by MenofFather, November 03, 2013, 10:40:06 AM

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MenofFather

devaic2.jpg is original his schematic.
devaic2redag.jpg edited by me, corected schematic mistakes.
devaic2redag2.jpg - edited by me, maybe that work.
Diodes only shotkeys (that write to me Pantiuchov). Only first diode can be not shotky, going from 12 volt plus, I think.
If need my advantages, opions, then write and I say that need capasitor and so on.



MenofFather


TinselKoala

There's a resistor value, some diodes and capacitors in that last circuit that are not stated. Is that the "out?"

I could use one of several function generators to make the suggested short duty cycle at 20-50 kHz.

I'm really curious... what will happen if (when) people build it and it doesn't "self-run"? What exactly is the definition of "self-running" here? That big 4700 uF capacitor can "self run" an LED or two for a long time. Before I start working, I'd like to know what the "pass" and "fail" criteria are.

MenofFather

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 03, 2013, 11:40:41 PM
There's a resistor value, some diodes and capacitors in that last circuit that are not stated. Is that the "out?"

I could use one of several function generators to make the suggested short duty cycle at 20-50 kHz.

I'm really curious... what will happen if (when) people build it and it doesn't "self-run"? What exactly is the definition of "self-running" here? That big 4700 uF capacitor can "self run" an LED or two for a long time. Before I start working, I'd like to know what the "pass" and "fail" criteria are.
I not wery understand you, can you ask simple?
In second post circuit LC circuit frenquency must be exatly same with generator frenquency, exactly-exatly. If LC frenquency 40 kiloherc, then and transistor must open in 40 kiloherc frenquency.
In first post circuit. Input frenquency is 100 kiloherc and LC frenquency 470 kiloherc, but may be and more frenquences that good. Only in first post in last circuit maybe frenquency of LC must be same like generator frenquency.
In first post circuits criteria that it self running is then miliampermeter show zero, then can disconect battery.
Now about that first circuit you speaking?
In both circuits I recomendate use all diodes shotkeys 60 about volts.
" I'm really curious... what will happen if (when) people build it and it doesn't "self-run"?"
Form people can  not work that, but can work, they have chance to make selrunner. If they not make that, then they lose that chance.
In first post circuits in left transformer is conected load (not big), but first, I think try without load make selfrunning.
" What exactly is the definition of "self-running" here?"
It run long time selfrun, maybe 100 year, but How say pantiuchov that frenquency must be wery exatly, so from diferent temperature frenquency generator or LC circuit can stop and LC this divice can stop selfrunning.
" Before I start working, I'd like to know what the "pass" and "fail" criteria are."
Pass is used curent is smaller, smaller, smaller, then you finding right frenquency. Fail criteria is long conected wires, not good conections, not falowing right schematic, big curent used by circuit.
That is small divices, output full power about 0.3 W maybe.