How to make multiple Kicks

[zapnic]

I allways belive that S.M kick was motion "washboard effect"
Morgan Jones book, Valve Amplifiers, 3rd edition, on page
262
Brian collins talks about something http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_fRKxz_UNo

[Reiyuki]

Here is something some of you guys might want to play with.

The 3 coils are each 1 strand of a trifilar inductor on a ferrite core. The wire is 30awg RS. Measuring the inductance, Ive measured 1 strand at 30mh. Capacitance between the 3rd strand and the series bifi is 3.5nf.
What is interesting is when I disconnect and reconnect the output bifi, Im not seeing any significant loading on the input on the scope. Well, the only current flow if any is into a 3.5nf capacitance at 10khz. 10.125khz is the freq the bifi resonates at its peak.

I dont know if this is the kicks SM was talking about, but its pretty cool to see capacitve action happen in a transformer, being the primary is open ended, other than capacitive connection of the trifi windings.  I have another winding of a bit thicker wire underneath the trifi, but using it as an open ended input, output is nill. Need to try that at higher freq thinking about it, as the capacitance between a trifi strand and the under winding, is .5nf.  But the bifi wont work at that freq. But I will try.

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Mags

  Awesome Mags, I think you and I are on the same wavelength.  I did that experiment a few days ago and got the same kind of results.  A 'Bifilar Capacitive Transformer.'  Attached is my setup.  And yes, adding caps in parallel would cut the R frequency.  I also did scope reads, and in this setup the resulting pulse is always in-phase with itself.

  As for coupling, you're probably getting some ground effects.  Even without an earth-ground, I found out my function gen and scope grounds are coupled.  Try doing ohm reading between your various (-) terminals to double-check.  Nevertheless, even with ground path this is a very interesting phenomena.

  Since we don't want to break the dipole, you could try adding 'secondaries' to that coil charging bridge-rectified-cap and see what you get.  I couldn't extract much power with AirCore but you may have more luck.

  Winding side-by-side would limit the flux, so I was also thinking about winding 2 opposed coils on the same core and wiring the same way.  Should lower the frequency and make harvesting easier.


  Best of luck in your tinkering.  I'll update as I get more neat effects as well.

[Magluvin]

  Awesome Mags, I think you and I are on the same wavelength.  I did that experiment a few days ago and got the same kind of results.  A 'Bifilar Capacitive Transformer.'  Attached is my setup.  And yes, adding caps in parallel would cut the R frequency.  I also did scope reads, and in this setup the resulting pulse is always in-phase with itself.

  As for coupling, you're probably getting some ground effects.  Even without an earth-ground, I found out my function gen and scope grounds are coupled.  Try doing ohm reading between your various (-) terminals to double-check.  Nevertheless, even with ground path this is a very interesting phenomena.

  Since we don't want to break the dipole, you could try adding 'secondaries' to that coil charging bridge-rectified-cap and see what you get.  I couldn't extract much power with AirCore but you may have more luck.

  Winding side-by-side would limit the flux, so I was also thinking about winding 2 opposed coils on the same core and wiring the same way.  Should lower the frequency and make harvesting easier.


  Best of luck in your tinkering.  I'll update as I get more neat effects as well.

Thanks. I used an Ecore from a transformer out of a pc power supply About 1.5 in.

I neglected to specify the resistance of each strand. Its 1.46ohm.  Dont remember the no. of turns, but I can calculate it tonight. 26awg ohms/foot. Also another correction is the wire used is 26awg green from RS 3 spool pack, not 30awg. 



Tinkering more, I found I had some settings wrong, menu base little tricky, but the input should be a push/pull. So its 4v p-p closer to 3.9v, and 1.95v + and -.   

Ill post pics tonight. They may not be posted till tomorrow, as I am still on moderation from arguing with MH.

The bifi side of my transformer had a capacitor lead soldered to one of the coil leads, the other end of the cap was not connected to anything and the circuit ran at 10.125khz.  The cap was there for a previous project, and while tinkering, I removed it as it was not being used, and my circuit freq changed to below 10khz, around 9.8khz.  Ill resolder the cap to confirm that it caused the change.

But now the output is around 65v with the same input. 3.8vp-p  1.9 +/- square wave.  Sine wave in gives reduced output.

I am going to make an ecore using RS snap together ferrite cores and using RS wire so anyone can get into this and get the same results.

I like the freq range it is working at. I try to stay away from radio freq.

Also, in the pic shown above and below, the circuit on the left is correct for connections. We can look at the 3 inductors as if they were wound trifilar and the bottom connections of the 3 inductors are the start of the trifi winding leads, and the top leads are of the last turn of the trifi coil.


Mags

[wings]

I allways belive that S.M kick was motion "washboard effect"
Morgan Jones book, Valve Amplifiers, 3rd edition, on page
262
Brian collins talks about something http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_fRKxz_UNo

my that was related to Einstein - De Haas effect

http://panda.unm.edu/pandaweb/demos/images/5h5010.jpg

this may explain the Otto simple experiment

http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Overunity.com%20-%20Forum%20members/otto/attachments-at-OU/test_1.jpg

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=403.0;attach=6099;image

succinctly: spin aligned with current flow = spin current+current electron flow

similar to theory in the prof R.L. Vallée synergie electrons and nucleus field with colinear E field and B field

[Magluvin]

Here is a pic of my transformer and the snap cores from radio shack that i will be using to make a larger Ecore.  The RS snap cores are about 9 bucks for 2. Ill be using 4 to make the ecore a double wide. Using Chair Fix super glue, but it doesnt say super glue on the package. But it is ultra thin. Position and hold tightly together the core pieces to have a flat mating surface for the other half of the Ecore to mate with, and apply a bit of the Chair fix to the parts mating edges to let the glue seep in. Hobby shops have thin super glue also. I think the Chair is thinner possibly. Sometimes lining up 2 pieces with glue applied already doesnt give enough time to get it straight before the glue locks up.

Got some 1/6 in pvc board from a hobby shop and will cut out pieces to make a square bobbin with caps. The pvc cuts nice with a utility knife and a straight edge.

The transformer with green wire is the one I used. Im looking to go lower in freq with the new one.
The 6 leads of the green trifi were in order. Pin 1 at the top is start of strand 1, pin 2 end of strand 1, pin 3 start of strand 2, pin 4 end of strand 2, pin 5 start of strand 3 and 6 end of strand 3.  You can see that the end of strand 1 is jumped to the start of strand 2 series bifi like the circuit shows.

The new one will have 6 strands, where I can double up the leads to have just 3 separate conductor windings, or try some other things like using 2 open ended strands for input at opposite ends of each, etc. 

Mags