Super simple way to see proof Pseudo Solid principle works using ring magnets

[Floor]

Quote from Low-Q

"The magnetic attraction and repulsion to the iron, and between each
magnet, changes to the weaker or the stronger depending on if the
iron pieces are in a pseudo solid state, or not.  So every time one think
there is excess energy when switching from the one state to the other,
that portion of energy is already been used by that other state in the cycle."

I think I get the general idea of what you are saying.  No net gain or in other words
the forces balanced out.   That is what we should expect from the interactions.

Speaking only for my self.

Not having a detailed description of your measurements, the interactions and process you
followed, I am still willing to go through this for my self.  Just for the experience.   
What ever the results I will accept them.  The process being in the open, others can also
benefit / learn as I do.

                    I appreciate your input though
                           cheers
                                   floor

[Low-Q]

Quote from Low-Q

"The magnetic attraction and repulsion to the iron, and between each
magnet, changes to the weaker or the stronger depending on if the
iron pieces are in a pseudo solid state, or not.  So every time one think
there is excess energy when switching from the one state to the other,
that portion of energy is already been used by that other state in the cycle."

I think I get the general idea of what you are saying.  No net gain or in other words
the forces balanced out.   That is what we should expect from the interactions.

Speaking only for my self.

Not having a detailed description of your measurements, the interactions and process you
followed, I am still willing to go through this for my self.  Just for the experience.   
What ever the results I will accept them.  The process being in the open, others can also
benefit / learn as I do.

                    I appreciate your input though
                           cheers
                                   floor

Also have in mind that measuring forces alone does not decide how much energy you spend or gains.
Say you measure magnetic attraction in two different states, and find that the measurements are equal, or not equal, you must take into consideration the average force between two points. Because force over distance is the energy you want to calculate.


If the device was a wheel, to make it easier to explain, you must find the force at every degree through one cycle. Maybe 360 samples through one cycle is not enough, but most important is that you measure the force (Or torque of the wheel) exactly one degree, or half degree at the time. That way you can tell pretty much for sure if the device is OU or not.


For the pseudo solid concept, maybe there is no wheel, or circular motion, so measuring at each degree might be hard to do. It still has a cycle to complete. Find measurements at small steps at the time, and consider all possible forces that applies in all three dimensions to each object on that device. Then you can assume you have no gain at all when all measurements are accounted for, and calculate the average by adding all measurements together, negative and positive forces, and devide the sum with the number of measurements.


Vidar

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[norman6538]

Butch, I don't understand how the magnet gets past the metal attraction spot?
Seems to be there is a sticky spot.

Norman

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Butch, I don't understand how the magnet gets past the metal attraction spot?
Seems to be there is a sticky spot.

Norman

Norman, I didn't draw the next unit. The units continue around in a closed loop making it rotary. [/size]
This is a VERY powerful machine.
Butch