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Overunity Machines Forum



Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor

Started by NTesla, January 29, 2014, 12:31:49 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: forest on February 06, 2014, 03:34:08 PM
here you are something which should work, just apply it wisely , magnets should be at 45 degrees, not necessary shaped that but box magnets poles are critical , I draw from memory so maybe poles should be reversed, but thos bar magnets below are at wrong angle


I don't pretend it's my idea I saw that in one patent, of course you should use that in round manner ;-), for example stator solid with magnets glued and rotor as a ring with box magnets... imagination is the limit....
Forest that doesn't work.  There is a position of potential energy minimum for the set.  The set exerts force among the members when the set is away from that position.  When it reaches that position there is no net force even if the position is an unstable equilibrium.

T-1000

Quote from: MarkE on February 06, 2014, 04:16:13 PM
Forest that doesn't work.  There is a position of potential energy minimum for the set.  The set exerts force among the members when the set is away from that position.  When it reaches that position there is no net force even if the position is an unstable equilibrium.

You need at least 3 pairs like that to compensate drawback force with moving force from other magnets.. Just think about system of multiple layers ;)

MarkE

Quote from: T-1000 on February 06, 2014, 05:50:44 PM
You need at least 3 pairs like that to compensate drawback force with moving force from other magnets.. Just think about system of multiple layers ;)
T-1000 one can keep adding and arranging more and more magnets in order to move the PE minimum, but that is all they can do:  move the PE minimum.  No arrangement can be constructed that exerts a force in one direction and one direction only.  Howard Johnson spent years and years trying to no avail.  The best he could do was come up with a combination of:  magnets, projectile mass, and track friction such that an object would run through his gate with enough momentum that it would get down the track far enough that the residual friction force exceeded the restoring force that pulled backwards on the projectile.  It was essentially a variation of the SMOT idea and failed for the same reasons that the SMOT fails:  It always costs at least as much energy to return the projectile to the starting position as gained from launching the projectile.

dieter

aka what goes up must come down, 101 of pms. Unless, you'd have a switch to turn the pm "off", tho such a switch is yet to be invented, at least one that doesn't require energy.

forest

Don't throw the idea so fast , look at the actual placement of magnets.They should have been in 45 degrees so the attaction and repulstion work together to push magnet while at sticky point there is balance between N and S forces and should be very low summary force.