Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[MileHigh]

Webby:

I am not following the technical discussion in detail.  However, I have read MarkE's postings for more than a year and I know how to qualify people.  Mark is the real thing.  Likewise, you can sometimes determine that somebody is clueless with respect to electronics in five sentences or less.

It's really too bad that you can't see the forest for the trees.

Wayne:

Is that your version of a "triumph"

Astute people will know who the evil one is.  And it is sad indeed that in this day and age, with all the access to information and the ability to inform oneself, that this can happen.  You are preying on the human condition and exploiting it for your own personal gain.

MileHigh

[mrwayne]

Please point to the specific post where you laid out the official analysis of a ZED, including the part where the free energy supposedly comes from. 

Sure, can't believe you keep missing this....

Conditions   At least three layers Each ZED:
ZED A Sunk remaining head due to riser weight and any added weight - ZED A  will be the receiving ZED,

ZED B is at the end of delivering a load and in the raised position - and was not allowed to Bob up after the load was removed.

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State one - Start with sunk - still head remaining - equal to the weight of the risers - and any additional load. (additional load is sometimes used to reduce time by reducing expansion and contraction during cycles)
p.s. Adding weight is counter intuitive - most people assume adding weight induces losses

Lesson to be learned - trying to achieve Ideal usage results in self determined conservative process.

The next state is post free flow - this is where the other ZED A and B have equalized between the stroked ZED and the sunk ZED. No riser movement in either ZED - only fluid and pressure.

Note: Free flow results in equalized pressure - but not equalized volume.

The next State is changing from Free flow too "precharge"

Full precharge is the end of the state between free flow and enough buoyancy to nuetralize the determined load and no riser movement either ZED.

The process to get to the full precharge state - two inputs are utilized :

One - the continued consumption of pressure from the ZED B - and the hydro assist.

The hydro assist adds enough pressure - that when combined with the exhuast from the other ZED - reaches load neutrality (buoyancy). This is full precharge for ZED A.

Note: ZED B will not sink until the stored head has dropped below nuetrality of the risers and any added weight.

The Hydro Assist continues to be combined with the Pressure from ZED B - the input cost is the differance between the sinking ZED pressure and the stroking pressure required.

The next state is the Production Stroke of ZED A. ZED A stroking and ZED B sunk is the first half of a Dual ZED cycle - the process repeats in the other direction - notice I did not say reverses.

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To understand Stroke - you must determine both the proper load and the proper stroke.

The proper load is the lift safely available at the determined end of stroke.

Iterations are helpful..... I will give you a rule of thumb - Do not make the stroke longer than 1/11 the height of the ZED.
(another counter intuitive - short stroke is a more efficient process)

Use your baseline calculator already prepared to determine what the load is at that height - and that is a good load - presuming riser weight and any added weight has already been considered.

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Unlike the states Mark described - the precharge and stroke is only released into the other ZED - not bobbed up or consumed as production.

The transfer of the precharge and Stroke is made mechanically more efficient as Webby described and posted two of our methods.

but you do not need to add those improvements to find the outcome.


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Last notes - when the full precharge is reached - any additional volume input into the ZED A results in production - so once precharge is hit - no consumption of the previous pressure occurs - the ZED B hits bottom at the end of the production stroke on ZED A.

In simple observation - the true cost of a stroke half cycle is all of the Hydro assist - which is also the stroking Pv ZED A, minus the sinking ZED B Pv, and then repeat for a full cycle.

The production cycle is both ZEDS having produced once and combined.

A full cycle is a return of ZED A to "Sunk.   

MarkE - if you do understand these States - you should be able to see how we transfer two sets of PV left and right - not consuming that value and truely reducing the total input cost - the remaining input cost is the hydro assist.

Lastly - the Hydro Assist can be a external input - or powered by the Production leaving excess. When you determine the cost of the Hydro Assist versus the production - you will understand why I have been so patient.

The Excess or Net per half cycle is no more than the value between the Pv sinking and the production - Not magical - but free.

And if you can't understand - Larry makes a pretty decent spread sheet. that covers the whole process.

Hope that helps.

Wayne

[MarkE]

MarkE

I applaud due diligence, I ignore your comments and assumptions and bogus conclusions.

If you do you math right - I know the conclusion - will you have the honor to admit it - I know you have not finished - because the Math does not lie.

Math unlike you may not lie.  Your claims of free energy generation, violation of the conservative nature of gravity are complete bald-faced lies, knowingly or recklessly made to investors.  See the Acts 1933, and 1934.

It could turn out that you are smarter than the 40 plus engineers that have traveled this road - that would be fantastic - but then we would have to solve why it works in the physical???

If by "works in the physical" you mean a machine that delivers the free energy you claim, you have never built such a machine.

We will see if you do.

I know it will be hard for you - you have dished out so much fodder - it is going to be hard to swallow.

I tried very very hard to warn you. I find no pleasure in your errors.

Tell me again in simple, easy to understand terms just what it is you claim to be warning me about.  Kindly state the specific consequences and by what means they will come about.

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Monderask can speak for himself - and has.

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I presented the "operational states" so that you could make a true conclusion - nothing to do with Monderasks State 1 or any other.

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Take care.

Wayne

In that video Tinsel Koala just posted you look real perty.  I asked Bubba about it and he agrees.

[MarkE]

Sure, can't believe you keep missing this....

...Useless wall of text, free of any supporting math or diagrams...

Yes, all you do is wave those oh so perty hands of yours.  Don't wave them too much or Bubba may get overly excited.

[mrwayne]

Webby:

Wayne:

Astute people will know who the evil one is.  And it is sad indeed that in this day and age, with all the access to information and the ability to inform oneself, that this can happen.  You are preying on the human condition and exploiting it for your own personal gain.

MileHigh

How will you repent when you realize you were on the wrong side of truth...

You have wronged me, injusted me, slandered me, and acted the complete fodder spreader.

And many people have taken the time to realize I am telling the truth - and you have not.

Good day