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Overunity Machines Forum



Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.

Started by Grumage, March 06, 2014, 12:29:06 PM

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Dave45

Someday bro you will see it, then you will have one of them oh $hit moments.

Most everyone knows that current runs from neg to pos and will tell you that they know its wrong but it works in circuit development and design so they keep using it.

Let agree to disagree I dont want to distract this thread, I think its a very worthwhile endeavor although I think the 80w circuit is simpler and would make a better test circuit, Im working on a variation now.

All the best
dave

wattsup

You guys really crack me up. There is this Akula device and you guys are worried about a water analogy for electrical effects. Besides, these is no right or wrong way to use an analogy. We use water to simplify the visualization (or brainwash hehehe) of electricity, just like we talk about the birds and the bees when explaining babies. EE is one of the domains where no proof does not hinder certitude of fact since you can produce any formula to rationalize reality to fit our limited minds. Religion is another. You will grow out of it in time.

About the circuit, the stop switch is to kill energy return from the secondary to the source. This is normal if you want an easy manual method of stopping the return in case R3 or C11 started heating up. He probably burnt a few of them while fine tuning his system, before putting the stop switch in there.

Always remember this is a self-running circuit. All the features of pulsing, secondary and return are in the circuit. During self-running you only have C11 and C5 to hold enough energy to run the circuit for a second at most.

Like I said at OUR, the L1/VT1/C3 combo is an analog or I would say a very smart variation of the Tesla Ozone Patent (TOP). In that patent Tesla explains that you can produce a damped impulse through a primary where the energy used can return to source. But here Akula is using the L1 for two usages, the first being an inductive source as in the motor coil of the TOP and second as the working transformer to impart to the secondary L2.

So the difference here compared to a TOP is that, instead of using the L1 pulse to then drive a primary to secondary coil to produce a discharge arc thus producing ozone, Akula is using it to directly drive the load (working primary without a secondary) where at the end of the load he put R5/C5 to reduce the bleed or load consumption to keep the system primed at all times and where he checks the system status. That is because the system cannot produce enough to run the load with straight ground hence full draw on the source will kill the looping effect.

The secondary L2 can then be freed 100% to simply concentrate its effort to produce enough output for the positive return line to C11.

So the L1 has two usages. It feeds the load directly via a TOP discharge and it energizes the secondary to recycle the energy. That is so smart that most of our brains will need an upgrade to understand it. hahaha

By contrast, our standard method of undamped pulse the primary and draw off the secondary where the energy used can never return to the source. Our whole EE system is based on undamped pulse.

The above also confirms to me that you don't need any special transformer winding other then what we use normally. That is, when primary is over the gap, the secondary is over another gap, or, when primary is on one side of gap, the secondary is on the other side of the same gap. Anything more and you are just creating unusable havoc and energy cancellation.

To test this is simple. Take any coil primary and tank it. Then take any battery and short it across the primary very quickly. Now look at the voltage on your tank. That's what is running the load. Then the secondary is free to return to source. Guys should be clamoring over their work benches by now.

wattsup


T-1000

Quote from: wattsup on March 29, 2014, 08:09:50 AM
So the L1 has two usages. It feeds the load directly via a TOP discharge and it energizes the secondary to recycle the energy. That is so smart that most of our brains will need an upgrade to understand it. hahaha

By contrast, our standard method of undamped pulse the primary and draw off the secondary where the energy used can never return to the source. Our whole EE system is based on undamped pulse.

Lol that is true :D

The conventional circuit always kill dipole and fight energy return paths on inductive loads in contrast to what is being used here.

The engineers should start thinking from another side - how to apply choke (or current transformer) instead of one way transformer and use it's BEMF for recycling energy back to the source capacitors. Then you have energy saving circuit at least... So this is what circuit in topic is about plus I suspect it makes additional noise signal for unconventional transformer effects.

P.S> This is what Igor is trying to do in his latest videos - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFGTQ06yeEw

Cheers!

adriangray

Whattsup; Grumage; Mile High; and others.

I don't know if you have noticed but the birds and the bees are in decline and the water is no longer has that magical sparkle, never loan Electrical qualities , but when I was in the telecom industry they use to say, 'An expert' was 'Ex" as in the past tense, and a jet of water under pressure! But who knows what's in the black magic box.

Re the L2 coil, as I was saying. I'm no Guru, but that L2 secondary is weird, if it's 'in' the circuit the whole device just draws loads of current, its as if that diode in the return just wasn't there, but if a fast diode is put in the top end where it joins the choke, and a capacitor to it's negative end of the coil you wile get some positive drive back in, but it's still not over unity, and if you put a 3.9 k from pin 4 of the 494 to 13 I can get the width of the drive pulse quite narrow and a pile of ringing stuff into the secondary, and also if you have a scope you could tune that width against the coil tuning of the coils and the fly back ringing, and then you need to look at the mode of the 494 against the push pull mode and single ended mode of the output stage, and then that circuit does not control the transfer voltage energy in that circuit and could be come a real problem with out limits, as the whole thing is 'fly' back, sucking energy back into the output from the core and the earth. Or should be? Roomer has it Lol

And don't take life too seriously as no one has managed to get out alive, yet! 

Grumage

Dear All.

It has been pointed out to me privately that my "RED LINE" analogy, whilst Ok for a purely resistive load, is incorrect for an LED load. The fact is we have LED's in a series/parallel configuration. If we apply our 12 Vdc without the Mosfet being triggered then zero current will flow through the diodes simply because the forward voltage conduction threshold has not been reached!! Only when we start the flyback cycle will the voltage reach a high enough value to light the load.

Now the thread has reached a more pedestrian pace I would like to present a simulation for perusal by our more learned members of OU.com. I would be grateful for your feedback.


http://tinyurl.com/ojn5fu8

Cheers Grum.