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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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PIH123

Quote from: FR Turbo on May 22, 2014, 12:30:41 PM
So with that being said, I can tell you that while there is not a lot of information being directly shared on this forum (or really any other)

I like your enthusiasm (and attitude from other posts of yours that I have read), but .....................

As you already know, you are right that there is not a lot of info being shared on be-do.com. Most factual posts that paint a grim picture of this endeavor and co-conspirators is quickly deleted.
But there is a lot of stuff being shared here. It covers both sides (positive and negative).

Just the last five pages of this thread alone should be enough to tell you whether this thing is real.
Most of it has been gleaned from text and videos provided by the QEG team.

Personally, I don't find much, if any, to be conjecture / hearsay.

So if you have an "open mind" and accept the good with the bad evidence, you should find lots of real info and very little ignorant cheerleading (without obvious proven reason) to take back to be-do.com.

Please be prepared to be slammed back there for negativity.
On that site, it only works if you believe in a higher something (don't recall this weeks new-age buzzword).
Or if you donate of course.


Regards

E.T.A.
By the way, you must have noticed that there is well in excess of a thousand posts on this site about the QEG (more if you count the multiple threads.
Doesn't it seem odd that the QEG official forum contains less posts than here. What does that alone tell you ?

MarkE

Quote from: PCB on May 22, 2014, 12:06:38 PM

Its fine to mixed things along as your clear.  If you are going to use peak-to-peak values use the term instantaneous power.  The mistake Dave made was to failed to understand that the power meter on the input side measured true rms value, while he did the math use the instantaneous power value for the output. But we have gone through this already ad nauseum.  It needs also to be said that all the posted analysis only applies to sinusoidal waveforms. Its highly likely that the QEG produces harmonics, so the output voltage and current are not strictly sinusoidal, but good enough.


Not really sure what you mean by "the correct normalization", unless your referring to the current sensor. What is clear from the latest Jamie posting it they are claiming overunity, where he did quote the actual power out put to be 1590W for an input of 800W, 2x overunity. However, like every body else, the real proof of onverunity is if they can self loop it.
Correct normalization means normalizing all measurements correctly to one common standard. 

Ideally, that standard would be average real power since that is the only thing that is really meaningful.  The "Kill-a-Watt" devices used on the input can report average real power.  FTW need to convert their output measurements to average real power.  It is not that hard to do.  The scope that they are using is completely capable of outputting a CSV dump that they can then import into a spreadsheet and use that to calculate the average real power.  If they don't want to take the time, then given waveforms that look reasonably close to sine waves where the phase angle is known they can in a few seconds take the readings right off the scope punch a couple of keys on a hand calculator to get estimated VA and then estimated real power.

shimondoodkin

from video on youtube it looks like he is still prototyping.
the website claims that he travels around the world.
but i haven't seen any video that shows a home running of this device.
is there any completed device  that works?

PCB

QuoteAn EEE is an Electronic and Electrical Engineer. I graduated from Surrey University (England) with a 1st Class Honours. I think we have beaten the peak-to-peak/rms issue to death. See my earlier posting for the calc.There is no reactive (imaginary) power or apparent power here. The load is purely resistive remember, so all the power is active (real) power. You can see this on the scope. The current and voltage are in phase. There is a tank circuit on the output of the QEG. This provides a constant load at resonance (if tuned correctly to the output frequency which is I think around 400 Hz). It too appears as a resitive load to the generator. That is not to say that the QEG is not capable of producing reactive power, but you need to have the right load. Generally reactive power is generated in synchronous AC systems to control the output voltage for inductive loads. I am assuming that at some point they will replace the tank circuit with a step down transformer, this they with need to tuned so that it looks like a resistive load by added parallel capacitance. This is generally refereed to as impedance matching and critical in ensuring max power transfer. If not done correctly power will be reflected back to the generator by the load. From what Jamie last reported, and if I understood him correctly, he was able to produce around 1600W (average power) into a resistive load for an 800W input to the system. So a COP of 2.

I just posted this over at http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-news/386-qeg-morocco-overunity?start=18#1706

I just hope somebody is listening at QEG HQ. I want to speed things along a bit. I getting impatient waiting for them to close the loop. Enough already a COP of 2 is more than sufficient - if its real of coarse! 

MarkE

Quote from: shimondoodkin on May 22, 2014, 03:04:52 PM
from video on youtube it looks like he is still prototyping.
the website claims that he travels around the world.
but i haven't seen any video that shows a home running of this device.
is there any completed device  that works?
No there is no working device.  Before their world tour, they lied and said that they had a device working for at least 150 hours.  They have not made any of their devices work:  run itself and drive a load anywhere that they have gone.