Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[TinselKoala]

More of a challenge than most of the QEG people and builders are up for, I'm afraid.

Consider. You (generic) are an electronics tinkerer and FE/OU fervent believer. You kind of believe in Timmy Thrapp but aren't really sure and are turned off by his ... er... marketing strategy. Now HypeGirl comes along and proclaims that they actually have a successful running version of the device demonstrated years ago by Timmy. And they are going to travel around teaching and giving them away so send money etc. Then you read about the Taiwan group and all the excitement and so you go and spend your three or four thousand dollars for the core and other parts, along with your generous donation to the FTW travel fund. Then you build and test, read and consider, build and test. And you come up empty and increasingly frustrated. And you notice that the very same thing is happening to James Robitaille himself, and you recall your EE classes from many years ago and you can see plainly that he is flailing, either deliberately lying about what the traces mean or is so incompetent that it's clear he's in waaaay over his head.

Now... you have the opportunity to report your folly, your negative findings and all the money you spent, or you can just remain silent and sweep it all under the rug, put the stuff on a shelf in the garage and show it off during weekend tailgate parties. Your choice....

"It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt."

[MileHigh]

F_Brown:

Thanks for your comments, great stuff.  It's like I did a "top-down" analysis, and you did a "bottoms-up" analysis and they agree.

It's funny sometimes because I think a lot of people don't realize how powerful a top-down analysis can be.  I don't have to literally know that the rotors experience tangential pings of force or that there is an injection of EMF into the primary coils, but I know that it has to happen like that.  It's just a question of making the measurements to confirm it.

TK:

Your analysis was compelling and I love the quote at the end!  I never read it before.  Nonetheless, I am going to be an idealist and hope.  Hope hope hope hope hope.

MileHigh

[Angelic]

Hi Albert,
I am a firm believer in this statement that you made and not limited to the QEG.

Now the components of the QEG hve all been researched and have been known for ages. There is however a possibility that a new combination of components may lead to a discovery.

My hope is that through forums like this and others that this will be possible.
I also wonder as many OU claims that have been made due to poor test procedures that eventually were found to be incorrect.
How many discoveries were missed by experimenters like ourselves and discounted as equipment errors or not having the equipment to make proper measurements. Tesla resorted to making his own. I can not believe that everything has now been discovered and that is why I do think unconventionally. 

[PCB]

There are various circuits out there that are suppose to convert the reactive power to real power from the rotoverter device information (you can do a search on this).  The principle is one based on extracting through voltage (capacitor charging) and drawing power from them. Note that voltage is a maximum when current is at a minimum (charging interval near voltage maximum), so BEMF is minimized in terms of impact back to the source, i.e. the motor turning the generator.  Also, it is desirable to extract the power from the capacitor when it is not being charged, so this is another way not to impact the source current draw.


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In any case, I believe the QED may yet show OU.

I'm not sure how that could work. Jamie would like to extract real  power from the primary as I understand him.  This being a tank circuit the energy is going back and forth between the cap and the inductor, we are simply moving charge between two storage elements, no work is being done, there is no power there either hence the reason its called "imaginary" power.  Also if you switch in capacitance at specific times to harvest some of the charge, you are going to chance the resonance of the circuit.

[PCB]

The main objection to the QEG saga isn't that someone wants to research something ridiculous, it is the fraudulent marketing and the outright lies and other misrepresentations made by HypeGirl and whoever else on their "team" emits information. If they had presented it as a research project, speculating about outcomes and asking for donations based on that... well, OK maybe. But that isn't what they did: they proclaimed they had a fully working design and a tested functional prototype, even stating the specific figure of 150 hours running. Everybody "assumed" that meant 150 hours running _itself_ and lighting up the usual loads. But now... some of us realize that wasn't true at all. Yet they drummed up a lot of interest and a huge amount of money. Enough money to fund me and my lab fully for the next five years, and that was just for starters. And that is what is so objectionable about their process. They are selling something they do not have and do not know how to make, while making false claims about its performance. Whether what they claim is impossible or not (it is) is really beside the point, from a mail fraud standpoint. After all, gold exists and can be mined. So will you buy some of these shares in my gold mine? If the shares aren't real or the mine isn't real or I don't have authority to sell them, you are being defrauded, even though gold itself might actually exist somewhere.

Well said!