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Theories concerning Hans Coler's Stromerzeuger

Started by Smudge, April 02, 2014, 11:38:25 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: Smudge on April 03, 2014, 10:36:43 AM
MarkE,

Maybe you haven't looked at the available data on the Unruh/Coler devices where you will find in the British Intelligence (BIOS) Report translations of the reports written by those professors.  Or maybe you think those reports are fictional.  For my part I am prepared to believe that they did indeed examine and test the Stromerzeuger.  The measurements were DC in and DC out so not likely to be wrong.  There was even a photometric test where the load lamp brightness when fed from the device was compared with an identical lamp fed directly from DC and adjusted to the same brightness.  Admittedly they did not try to replicate the device, they merely examined and measured one using their own instruments.

You may not realize that there are two different devices.  The Magnetstromapparat is the one where there have been numerous attempts at replication simply because the BIOS report gives details of its construction, and that does indeed have coils around magnets.  There is scant evidence that this actually gave out any significant power, merely an anomalous voltage.  And like you I think this could easily be explained by stray EM pick up.

The Stromerzeuger however had no construction details given, but does involve current passing through ferromagnets, not permanent magnets as in the Magnetstromapparat but soft magnets in the form of high-purity iron rods.  It is the Stromerzeuger that was examined and tested by those Professors, although many people wrongly assume it was the other machine.  And the tests did show significant excess power coming from somewhere unknown at a level that couldn't be explained by stray EM.  It has taken a lot of work to track down the actual construction of the Stromerzeuger but it is now thought to be based on the Norrby patent.  It is far too complicated to attempt a replication, what is needed is some simpler experiments exploring the possible scenarios for why it worked.  Or as you put it, falsification experiments.  I will be posting things shortly on that.
I read the reports.  The results were negative.  Ingot iron has very high permeability, but it also has poor resistance.  That means it is good for low frequency transformers, not even mains frequency transformers.

Smudge

MarkE,

So you consider a DC input power of 1.54 watts and a DC output power of 10.5 watts as being a negative result?  And a conclusion from W. O. Schumann that reads "After the present examination, carried through as carefully as the limited possibilities of experimentation permitted, I must surmise that we have to face the exploitation of a new source of energy whose further developments can be of an immense importance" is also a negative result?  He also wrote "I do not believe in a deception".  Professor Kloss wrote "The result of the investigation showed an astonishing working of the apparatus, which, without further researches cannot be explained or compared with hitherto known characteristics".  This is all negative?

MarkE

Quote from: Smudge on April 04, 2014, 10:15:58 AM
MarkE,

So you consider a DC input power of 1.54 watts and a DC output power of 10.5 watts as being a negative result?  And a conclusion from W. O. Schumann that reads "After the present examination, carried through as carefully as the limited possibilities of experimentation permitted, I must surmise that we have to face the exploitation of a new source of energy whose further developments can be of an immense importance" is also a negative result?  He also wrote "I do not believe in a deception".  Professor Kloss wrote "The result of the investigation showed an astonishing working of the apparatus, which, without further researches cannot be explained or compared with hitherto known characteristics".  This is all negative?
AFAIK Schumann was not part of the British investigation.  The fact that decades later neither Schumann nor Kloss, nor anyone else who saw that particular demonstration ever replicated says that their observations were flawed.

forest

Excuse me, did you investigated how ferrite interacts with radio wave ? can you post any links describing details ?

MarkE

Quote from: forest on April 05, 2014, 03:13:11 AM
Excuse me, did you investigated how ferrite interacts with radio wave ? can you post any links describing details ?
Nearly every AM radio uses a ferrite core antenna.