The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.

[centraflow]

A lever does not change the relationship between a mass and the gravitational field.

what are you talking about, the see saw or the other thread?


If the other thread, you need to study it to see what changes the relationship, in reality it is the time domain relationship of the center of gravity (continualy moving) and the bottom weight trying to keep up with it, it's like a cat trying to catch it's own tail, the cat is the heavy weight, the tail is the moving center of gravity using very little energy to move, but the weight has a huge amount of energy once moving from gravitational pull (it never stops as long as you have that small input).


regards


Mike

[MarkE]

what are you talking about, the see saw or the other thread?


If the other thread, you need to study it to see what changes the relationship, in reality it is the time domain relationship of the center of gravity (continualy moving) and the bottom weight trying to keep up with it, it's like a cat trying to catch it's own tail, the cat is the heavy weight, the tail is the moving center of gravity using very little energy to move, but the weight has a huge amount of energy once moving from gravitational pull (it never stops as long as you have that small input).


regards

Quote from: centraflow on Today at 05:28:45 PM


    An off set see saw, heavy weight on the short end and a lighter weight on the other, the fulcrum is your center of gravity relationship, notice I said relationship

    regards

    Mike

A lever does not change the relationship between a mass and the gravitational field.

Mike

[centraflow]

You must be talking about that other "TK", Kapanadze, because I don't leave out the energy it took to get the block up there in the first place.
DO NOT MISREPRESENT ME OR PUT WORDS INTO MY MOUTH.

Nobody denies that you can "extract energy" from falling weights. That energy does not come from gravity, though, and the "trick" is that you need to consider the _complete cycle_. How did that pesky concrete block get up there in the airplane to begin with? THAT is the energy that "devistates" your house. The little tipping energy "from stable to unstable" is just what it takes to get over the final potential hill (moving the CG of the block over the edge of the doorway) and that is returned almost instantly as the block begins to fall.

TK


Don't get heated, I was talking to Mark-E and not representing you in any way, I'm not that type of person, so calm down.


Yes I think I explained myself well that getting the block up there in the first place was not to be taken into the equation. It was to show that little in a moment of time can be used to create a lot. The trick is to be able to do that all the time without starting from the ground again, and of course with that analogy you could never do that, and was not the point.


Now what I call time bending   is another thing, it can be a way of maintaining a mass in continual fall with little energy input in relation to output. No laws are broken, just bent time a little


If you look at that other thread, then you just maybe see something and see why I call it time bending, a mass that's always falling!!! how can that be?  well thinkabout what I have said in other posts here, move the center of gravity relationship to the mass and don't try to move the mass.


regards


Mike

[centraflow]

A lever does not change the relationship between a mass and the gravitational field.



Mike

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[forest]

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Except when the center of mass of lever is changing without any work spent, like when lever is free falling in space.
Never heard about parametric resonance ? It's very similar