COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,

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Here's a video: They claim power's generated by the current, voltage out of phase 90 degrees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDjWwoD83Rk&list=UU-41VqjATdRAlN7ztX8S30A

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This video was placed by Gotoluc on his thread. I read the comments, some really very dumb, like Milehigh's:


"Luc,

I watched the clip.  I am going to read between the lines for you and I am not going to mince words.

The cost for the conference is $400 per person and they state that the attendance is limited to 150 people and they state that there are 72 seats left.  So they are only half-sold and the conference is less than two months away.  I am going to guess that if they sell out they will actually over-sell and sell 175 seats.  So that's 175 x 400 = $70,000 that they want to split up amongst themselves.

Reactive power is nothing more than power that you originally put into a reactive device, i.e.; an inductor or a capacitor, that is spat back at you by the reactive device.  Think of a training center for boxers where there is that thing where you punch a bag and it's on a vertical shaft with a stiff spring.  I just looked it up it's called a "speed bag."  You punch the speed bag and it punches you back.  That's all reactive power is, period.

Think of slowly charging a capacitor through a resistor, and then slowly discharging the same capacitor to ground through the same resistor - energy in then energy out.  Now replace that with a sine wave excitation and you more or less get the same thing - energy in then energy out.  "Reactive power" is not some "other form of power" - it's nothing more than the power you yourself supplied a fraction of a second before, just like the boxing speed bag.  In a sense, reactive power doesn't even exist.  Think of playing with a big spring, do you sense that there is some "new power" coming from the spring?

Anyway, here is the reality as I see it:  Aaron's clip is nothing more than a cynical ploy to sell more tickets so that he can hit his $70K target.  I have to believe that it is a staged clip where there are pitchmen for the fake setup, and the rest of the people are just casual observers who are not aware of what's going on.  I know saying that almost sounds crazy, but look at the model of John Rohner as an example.

All that we saw was a scope waveform and some boxes and a variac and a 100-watt resistor.

You want a clue that it is a fake?  That looks like a legit 100-watt power resistor in the setup.  It's supposed to be mounted vertically so the heat can be drawn away by the hot air flowing up the center of the tube like a chimney.  The bozos have it mounted horizontally.

When I see things like this sometimes I get offended.  That clip is an insult to every legitimate scientist and engineer involved in the electronics industry, and in a more general sense it's an insult to everyone.

Think about this:  If you were to scope the entire signal chain between the input to the load resistor, at some point you would have find a place where the voltage or current or both are much more than they are supposed to be.  Like somehow the average power or energy per cycle 20-fold like some magic energy is raining down like manna from heaven.  Do you get me?   Put your scope probes on point A and see 5 watts, then put your scope probes on point B and see 100 watts.  With your scope you should be able to see where the "magic power" enters the circuit.

Don't forget, these are the same people that at a previous conference projected a computer animation of a 10-coiler Bedini motor alternately charging battery banks back and forth while the unused bank was running an inverter and powering a house.  "Use a 10-coiler and you never have to pay for power again" was the message in that animation.  That's total crap and has never ever been proven and they had the audacity to project that at a conference".

MileHigh


Quote from MH:


"You want a clue that it is a fake?  That looks like a legit 100-watt power resistor in the setup.  It's supposed to be mounted vertically so the heat can be drawn away by the hot air flowing up the center of the tube like a chimney.  The bozos have it mounted horizontally".


It's mounted horizontilly to demonstrate the accumulation of heat, not to dissipate it.

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I would have to agree with MileHigh's assessment.

It's a desperation move without doubt.

But, having said that, I would LOVE to be proven
wrong...

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@SeaMonkey,


Milehigh's comparison of a spring to reactive power is completely false. A spring has real power stored in it. Reactive power is void of any real power. The claims of 20 times overunity may be false, but they have to be false for the right reasons. Milehigh really pumped way too much poop into his criticism.

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Yeah I agree he totally went off on that one.   He even said it might sound crazy and yes it does sound crazy MileHigh.   You have been affected by solar flares or something.    Actually that resistor looks exactly like one I've got which is 225 watts.   Whether it is 100 or 225 if it is a higher wattage than Murray said in the video only reinforces they are getting more power out if it's getting hot with a higher wattage rating than he said.     Murray has high credentials as well as a patent.   Is Aaron trying to make some money on the conference?   Sure.  So what.   That doesn't mean Murray and Babcock are thrown their reputations to the wind and lying.   They seem to have something valid and some explanations that sound right too.