KARPEN PILE

[MarkE]

Sheehans paper along same line as chang et al http://meetings.aps.org/meeting/mar14/session/a2.11

Bad link.

[profitis]

We cannot rely on pomodoro.he explicitly stated that he may or may not with-hold info at will therefore you have to look at results here through the spectacles of a highly trained electrochemist to see anything suspiciously worthwhile here.in other words pomodoro may or may not have served his own interests from given information.pomodoro may also have been hesitant  to show something here even if he wanted to its a coin toss what you make of these results.I can assure you however that catalytic spillover is a very very textbook phenomena wether it be hydrogen or oxygen variety.it is in my laboratory-power to show oxygen spillover variety eg the nickel-mnO2 variety without a shred of doubt behave in reversable manner.the negative potential shown in the step-down spillover tests absolutely rule out any kind of galvanic corrosion.you will get this distinct mark only in a spillover cell,any spillover cell.this marker-potential will always be positive for the hydrogen moiety and negative for oxygen moiety.this distinct signal is absent from corrosion-dominated species

[profitis]

Let me see if I can get the sheehan link sorted.

[MarkE]

We cannot rely on pomodoro.he explicitly stated that he may or may not with-hold info at will therefore you have to look at results here through the spectacles of a highly trained electrochemist to see anything suspiciously worthwhile here.in other words pomodoro may or may not have served his own interests from given information.pomodoro may also have been hesitant  to show something here even if he wanted to its a coin toss what you make of these results.I can assure you however that catalytic spillover is a very very textbook phenomena wether it be hydrogen or oxygen variety.it is in my laboratory-power to show oxygen spillover variety eg the nickel-mnO2 variety without a shred of doubt behave in reversable manner.the negative potential shown in the step-down spillover tests absolutely rule out any kind of galvanic corrosion.you will get this distinct mark only in a spillover cell,any spillover cell.this marker-potential will always be positive for the hydrogen moiety and negative for oxygen moiety.this distinct signal is absent from corrosion-dominated species

WRT Pomodoro, that's one speculation piled on top of another.

Assure all you want.  We know that these text books do not claim violations of the Second Law, as you keep representing they tacitly do.  So it would seem that their authors interpret the contents much differently than you do.

[profitis]

Google 'sheehan epicatalysis' for that paper. I never claimed that textbook authors on spillover point out a kelvin discrepency.spillover researchers are paid to research industrial catalysis and improve industrial catalysis and nothing more.the fact remains that the original karpen cell itself and all catalyst cells like it indeed behave in a manner consistent with textbooks ie.they behave in a manner consistent with catalytic spillover.a handfull of guys have now noticed its horrifying reversability.