Overunity electrolysis - 31 times more effective gas production than with DC

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Some related information in:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2212.msg40863#msg40863

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Chemical energy is due to the different electron cloud arrangement of the compounds even though the elements are the same.
Can "electrolysised water" or "High Frequency Pulsed water" have different electron cloud arrangements as compared with ordinary water?

Divine revelation?

[Bob Smith]

Lawrence,
I would like to offer a slightly different angle on your conjecture, one that relates to your lead-out work with the Joule Theif.  I recall you posting about your team having put a secondary on the JT and then using the secondary's configuration to produce a feedback dynamic resulting in a standing wave, which can be drawn upon to produce excess energy. I believe this is the basic principle that has been spoken of by at least one person who was present at Stan Meyer's disclosure of his method to the Maori people in New Zealand.

Some commentators like Bearden will state that the inductive kickback is actually the aether pushing back on the circuit with energy from the vacuum to restore balance from the unbalanced state produced by a voltage spike.  My question is:

Does this energy from the vacuum have some kind of unique property which orders water to be more perfectly aligned (at the intra and inter-molecular level) in order that it can produce gases in overabundant quantity as Meyer and others who follow his method have claimed?

It is one thing to pulse water with a high voltage spike. But it seems to be quite another to take the inductive kickback from a circuit to produce a standing wave, and then, to use the standing wave's claimed overunity to drive a water-fracturing circuit.  Does the energy from the vacuum in fact constitute a more primeval  and effective ordering force for water to properly align for this kind of superabundant gas production to take place?

Here are some of the posts where you dealt with a standing wave in the JT produced by secondary configuration. See this post and subsequent posts further down on page:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7434-lee-tseung-lead-out-bring-energy-theory-4.html#post136798

Bob

[Bob Smith]

A post worth quoting in light of some of the discussion on this thread:

by sm0ky2 @ http://www.overunity.com/8825/pulsed-dc-transformer-with-embedded-magnets/msg248725/#msg248725 :
i know very well the secrecy of the research we do.
ive studied the history of thousands of inventors of the past, and many seem to have eerily similar stories....

i've been around long enough to watch people here in these pages sell out to the industry.

ive seen misinformants come here with no intention other than discouraging us from doing what we do.

im not arguiing the facts you have presented.

only the way you are interpreting them.

you can perform the experiments to verify what i am telling you.
if you want i can even help you do that.
this is not some indoctrinated b.s. i pulled out of the books of the thermodynamically enslaved.

i myself have broken the laws of physics, i have defied the earth's atmosphere, i've proven einstein wrong and done things that would make steven hawking cry all over his wheelchair.
and i understand clearly how these things are able to take place, in defiance of some of the greatest minds mankind has ever known.
perhaps they were too smart for their own good ( and all of ours..)

there are secrets kept from our eyes that make the worlds largest supercomputer array look like child's play.
there are technologies that can play your body like a puppet, and most of the functions of your mind as well.
there are many things that SHOULD be kept secret.

i happen to believe infinite energy sources aren't one of them.

money makes the world go round my friend.
and those that take it from us will pay whatever they must to make sure they can keep taking it.
every day, drivers in the U.S. consume 378 million gallons of gasoline.  @ $2.69 a gallon
electricity, jet fuel, coal, heating oils, natural gas, propane, deisel, rocket-fuels.   <pause   hmmmmmmm>
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When you have a high permeability core (as used in modern electronics) its' resonant frequency is much higher than the components that utilize it are capable of.
you can have your inductance/capacitances in resonance,
which is quite common. with a lower permeability core, you can actually get them all to resonate together.

[MarkE]

I see lots of allegations and claims.  I don't see evidence that backs either one.  Dr. Hawking is fallible just like anyone else.  It would however be very unexpected and noteworthy should he be found to make a major mistake in his field.  Can the poster you quoted live up to their boasts?