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Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

Started by hartiberlin, September 27, 2014, 05:54:29 PM

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allcanadian

@Mark
QuoteNo, I base the likelihood of free energy being real at next to nil because
no one has ever offered reliable evidence of it and we have
great experience that matter / energy are conserved.
Let's be perfectly clear, first you cannot know everyone/no one so that is a lie, thus you cannot know that "no one has ever offered reliable evidence of it" which is also a lie and the conservation of energy does not negate free energy which is a false belief.
I mean your arguments are simply ridiculous because logically I can tear them apart without even trying. Come on Mark you can do better than that because your last post was pre-school in my opinion.
AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

poynt99

Quote from: tinman on January 24, 2015, 08:22:54 AM
We are supplying the cell with 60 watts of power until such time that the tanks have reached the said pressure. If we now add the stored energy within the H and O + the heat energy from the cell(and the battery as well if we want to get down to the nitty gritty)-will this total amount of energy equal the P/in supplied?.-->or is there another energy being disipated that we are not taking into account?.

Were looking for the total transformation.

Again Brad, power is not energy. One can not ask; "does energy x equal power y". That is comparing apples and oranges.

If I understand you correctly, the wording to your question should be as follows:

If we run the 60W cell until each tank is at 100psi, does the stored energy in the gasses, plus the total heat energy lost in the process, equal the energy used by the 60W source?
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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tinman

Quote from: poynt99 on January 24, 2015, 08:20:00 AM
Here are some hints as to what magnetism (and the forces) is:

http://skepticsplay.blogspot.ca/2007/12/relativity-electrostatics-magnetism.html
http://skepticsplay.blogspot.ca/2011/03/electricity-magnetism-space-and-time.html
QuoteQuote: The magnetic and electric forces interact and affect each other, but it is not clear why. Why should currents in the same direction attract? The wires, after all, have no net charge. There are just as many electrons as protons in each wire. So it can't be that the electric force is somehow sneaking in, disguised, right?

There is, in fact, a paradox associated with magnetism. Magnetic forces only act upon moving charges.
Cool-so what about PM's-->where is there electrical charge?
Could it be those negatively and positively charges i was talking about some time back?,that have a close association to that of static charges-
Quote: The electrostatic force is what causes opposite charges to attract, and like charges to repel. Electrons, negatively charged, tend to stick to protons, positively charged. Two protons would repel each other, as would two electrons.

They forgot to add that positively and negatively charges are also attracted to neutral charges.

tinman

Quote from: poynt99 on January 24, 2015, 08:31:53 AM
Again Brad, power is not energy. One can not ask; "does energy x equal power y". That is comparing apples and oranges.

If I understand you correctly, the wording to your question should be as follows:

If we run the 60W cell until each tank is at 100psi, does the stored energy from the gasses, plus the total heat energy lost in the process, equal the the energy used by the 60W source?
Yes

poynt99

Then the energy will be equal to or less than the energy used by the 60W source, depending on whether any material byproducts (aside from the H and O2) were produced in the process.
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments V1.0: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209