Magdrive HHO Generators

[hartiberlin]

Hi Walter,
well they just use 12 Volts and about 15 amps in their biggest unit the
SuperGen.
1.5 Volt was just mentioned, when they turn off the power supply,
that the plates act a bit like batteries and have left a charge for
a while with 1.5 Volts.
Seems this got mixed up.
It is the same, as if you use graphite electrodes as
they store some gas and then work as supercapacitors,
but with other electrodes this effect is almost zero or
very low storage, so this has no big influence...

With the SuperGen for 300 US$ they claim to be able to run
a car solely on water !
It produces at 180 Watts DC input about 1 Gallon of Hydroxy
gas in their test video with NO vacuum suction.
So connected to the vacuum of the engine I would think it will produce at least
2 times this amount of gas.

Also they show the electrolyte almost cooking at around 180 degrees Fahrenheit !
So it runs probably pretty hot inside the stainless steel cylinder.

Maybe it would be good to put alufoil slides into the gas-output-hoses to
prevent a flame temperature rise, if a flashback occurs.

This is usually used to drop down the temperature of a flame-front and
thus prevents flashback detonations !

Also they use 30 amps fuses, so the current must be
lower than this.

If somebody from the USA already ordered and got the SuperGen,
please post a few photos of it.

Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

[MagDrive]

That is correct, we can run the vehicle's engine on the Super-Gen, we didn't demonstrate or state we were driving it around town but the S-G was capable of running the engine soley on HHO. When you view our videos you are seeing the HHO in the blue water dye test coming directly from the HHO generator being created without any demand and free flowing into the dyed water. It produces pretty good for our standards but when put under 17 -22" of Vac you ought to see it then. Under static conditions you are seeing better than a gallon per/min at appx 3 psi, we say a gallon but its better than 2 but thats no big deal when compared to 22" of VAC. At 22" VAC that HHO comes out like it was coming from a high preasure hose. Using the configuration that we use, both the venturi [duel] tubes in front of the throttle body and the direct injection by vacumn into the intake manifold directly the SG will produce all that the engine calls for. Also at higher speeds the exothermic temps rise to over 200*F and the amperage does increase due to cell activity during demand. Never once in our history have we had a blow back or mishap of back fire. Surprisingly the gas/liquid check valves are of excellent quality and have never failed yet!!! The exhaust actually doesn't have any odor at all and the emissions are at the lowest level on record that the testing facility had ever seen for a 16 year old truck and technology w/178,000 miles, so we must be doing something right. Also to fill you in, the operating temp of the engine does go down appx 3-5 *F when running on the HHO/Fuel mix [hybrid] because the conversion during cumbustion converting the HHO back to h2o and then into super heated steam, it gets the heat from the surrounding cumbustion chamber. So in essence, we start with h2o, we split it into HHO then we combine it with fuel/air and combust it. It then converts back to h2o, then its super heated to high temp steam and is pushed out thru the exhaust where it condenses back into h2o. So we start with h2o and end up with h2o using appx 1.75 quarts per/400 miles. Hope this helps with your investigation.
Soon we will be introducing the Micro-Mini for Jet water craft and Atvs including motorcycles up to 750cc. They will operate on appx 3-4 amps/12vlts DC. Enough to make a 40 mpg vehicle get upwards of 55 miles per/gal. Remember its not how much you can produce, its what and how you distribute the HHO efficiently to get the most out of it, no different than the petrol you are trying to stretch for milage.
Best Regards,
MagDrive

[hartiberlin]

Hi Magdrive,
that sounds fantastic !
If this works so well,
could you please modify an external power supply (motor-generator
normally run on gasoline)
and run this completely on water ?

Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan

[raburgeson]

Stephen,

   It sounds like you may have had contact with this company. Alternators under heavy load only draw typically 10 hp. The normally asked questions don't answer any of mine. Would industrial chrome plating .002 thick be sufficient to protect the engine for complete conversion? Does the electrolyte contain or exhaust anything harmful into the enviroment? I realise water does not but there is not pure water in the chamber.

[ResinRat2]

Hi Stefan,

Thanks for the info.

I used to think that burning hydrogen in our vehicles was the way to go, but now the rust issue concerns me more. As difficult as it is now to make our vehicles last, I hate the idea of intentionally exposing the engine components to water. I know water is produced in combustion, but the small amount that is now produced in burning gasoline is nothing compared to what this technology would create. Unless our vehicles were designed beforehand to be water resistant, which they are not at this time.

I am now leaning to the hydrogen fuel cell technology instead. This seems the better way to go but also requires a complete change in vehicle design. Maybe at least the cars could last more than a few years before they began to rust. Hydrogen seems to have its own set of (different) problems.

Thanks for letting us express our opinions.