Magdrive HHO Generators

[pese]

Collection of HHO Brown Rodrige R-Gas   and more.....

http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=hho

[Nekar]

Also to fill you in, the operating temp of the engine does go down appx 3-5 *F when running on the HHO/Fuel mix [hybrid] because the conversion during cumbustion converting the HHO back to h2o and then into super heated steam, it gets the heat from the surrounding cumbustion chamber. So in essence, we start with h2o, we split it into HHO then we combine it with fuel/air and combust it. It then converts back to h2o, then its super heated to high temp steam and is pushed out thru the exhaust where it condenses back into h2o.

What is this super heated steam exactly? As I understand the hydrogen and oxygen molecules are seperated in this state and as I mentioned in a previous post I am under the impression that it is highly combustible so it should be perfect to re-use as fuel - again!

Am I getting something wrong here?

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-Nekar Xenos-

[pg46]

Hi Nekar-

I believe superheated steam must be very hot in order for it to seperate into hydrogen and oxygen something like around 5,000 degrees - I forget exactly. If it isn't hot enough to be split into hydrogen and oxygen after its recombined in the cylinder it can still be recycled nevertheless back into the fuel water tank instead of out the exhaust - why not, huh? Another way though might be to take advantage of the efficiency of electrolysis of hot steam to make hydrogen and oxygen since it requires less power to do so than with regular temp electrolysis of water.
Just some thoughts.

Regarding the magdrive system, I agree with markaustralia where in the videos of the magdrive it doesn't appear to  produce anywhere near 4 lts/min. In any case magdrive could simply have measured the production properly instead of just speculating.
Whats important though is the concept of the production while under some pressure in comparison to hydroxy gas production while under vacuum. Now that is interesting. Maybe hartiberlin can tell us about the increase in gas production he experienced while testing this idea?

Hope magdrive will take up on the suggestion of showing a closed loop system. Using a small generator with its original fuel tank removed to demonstrate their claims would be nice since it was just too vague using their old ford pickup with shots of a fuel guage on empty.

Best,

[vincent68]

I don't get it. When I turn my car on water runs out of the exaust. Why would any more moisture make it rust?
Also I would like to run a generator, if it would never shut off, I don't see that it could rust.
Now check this link.

http://howto.wikia.com/wiki/Howto_inflate_a_balloon_with_hydrogen_having_water,_aluminium_and_sodium_hydroxide

It says aluminium and lye make HHO. Is this setup slowly eating the engine?

Thanks Vince

[pese]

Some links to produce hydrogen on demand:

http://savefuel.ca/oxy-hydrogen/index.php  ++ make 50ltr oxyhydrogen/h (Car)
http://www.accagen.com/   ++ make 200atm hydrogas

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very old link for JOEs Cell:

http://energy21.freeservers.com/orgone.html - Orgon, Joe?s cell
  = from 1995 !! Why not 2006 in working cars?? (GDP)