Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter

[plengo]

Plengo:

Nice work! I like the sealed cell idea except for one possible exception.  If it keeps the air out, which appears to be a good idea from your tests, then will it not keep any gasses formed inside?  This also may be good and why it works as it does.  What I am wondering about, is the possibility of an explosion if the pressure inside gets too high?  I mean, if pressure were building up, you could not really tell could you?

Other than that, it appears to be a great step forward and I wish you the best with your work.

What if this cell lasts forever?  The Duracell folks might want to take you out, ha ha.

Bill

I don't think it will explode, even if it was it would be more like a girls tiny little fart (purfrf), that's it. 


I have one  that is about 2 years old now and she is pretty much the same size as in the beginning. There is some expanding to a limited size and it stopped. It always happens with open cells.


If this runs forever?!! I hope so and I wish the battery companies would take me for a ride. I would tell them about Jesus love for the lost.

Fausto.

[Macgyver7]

Hi Fausto, I have noticed that it has been almost 18 months since you posted results of your sealed cell tests.  How did you get on with these cells?  I have been following crystal cell development for several years now and am interested in getting into making some myself in the near future. I appreciate you sharing your insights on what to do and not do in construction and operation of cells.

I have noticed that there are lots of gems of information which are scattered throughout the forums, but with so many pages it does make it hard to follow along and glean information about what works and what doesn't.

It would be very useful to future experimentation if each of you guys could post in a single summary, what you have learned concerning composition of cells, what works and what doesn't concerning electrodes and electrolytes, coating of electrodes etc. for wet cells and dry cells. By what works and doesn't, I mean what things give the most power output for a cell and also what gives the longest life.

I have done a similar thing to what I am proposing here with another area of research I am involved in, and it was very beneficial for helping others to break into the field of research.  It may be of benefit here too.

Kind Regards,
Tim.

[plengo]

Forgive me for taking so long to respond. Believe it or not, I just came here TODAY after years to post my findings that i published at my facebook account a few weeks ago: https://www.facebook.com/fausto.gomes/posts/10210124053596741


I think I got a very good result, in specific and coincidental, about that cell that you are asking. This cell's name is FLASHY. I did one for my son. I moved to another house and lost her. Finally I found her in a box somewhere. She was totally dead. I was very happy to find her.


I decided to revive her using my best methodology which is what I published in FB. I have to make another post in English. The results are wonderful. Unfortunately that one needs constant water adding although no corrosion will be seen.


I do have a WORKING cell, I do. It is simply incredible how can something run for soooooo looooonnnng on water. One terminal's metal gone into a different color and consistency and YET still runs. Absolutely externally dried and sealed cells also works, although, again, water inside ONLY. Water does not leave, water does not enter. This is the cell you are asking.


I am sharing ALL in FB. You can replicate one yourself. So let me waste no time and share my findings.


Thanks for asking btw.


Fausto.

Hi Fausto, I have noticed that it has been almost 18 months since you posted results of your sealed cell tests.  How did you get on with these cells?  I have been following crystal cell development for several years now and am interested in getting into making some myself in the near future. I appreciate you sharing your insights on what to do and not do in construction and operation of cells.

I have noticed that there are lots of gems of information which are scattered throughout the forums, but with so many pages it does make it hard to follow along and glean information about what works and what doesn't.

It would be very useful to future experimentation if each of you guys could post in a single summary, what you have learned concerning composition of cells, what works and what doesn't concerning electrodes and electrolytes, coating of electrodes etc. for wet cells and dry cells. By what works and doesn't, I mean what things give the most power output for a cell and also what gives the longest life.

I have done a similar thing to what I am proposing here with another area of research I am involved in, and it was very beneficial for helping others to break into the field of research.  It may be of benefit here too.

Kind Regards,
Tim.

[plengo]

In this year of 2017 great progress I have made.


My crystal cells are running for so long that I decided to publish what I think is relevant for others to replicate, create, expand and be happy with an LED running in the night every night for free, or almost so.


I use Copper and Zinc. Other metals works but the process of formation is totally different and also the results. I will focus on the one I have the best data so far. A proper made cell composed of Copper and Zinc should run for years. Simple.


The crystal in use is Epson Salts, readily available in pharmacies. Copper can be cut from pipes, or even use thin Copper foil. I've done both. I like the copper rings because they can sustain pressure although my Zinc cell that I will describe here uses Copper foil.


I also use Carbon Activated, the ones used in home fish tanks.


The only element that needs careful handling is MnO2 (Manganese Di-Oxide). It is black, very heavy and goes into the skin easily. Use gloves or wash your hands frequently.


The geometry is simple:  Copper Plate - Paper Tower impregnated [/size]with Epson Salts saturated solution - Paper Towel impregnated with MnO2 - Zinc Plate.


The formation process is the key. I use a camping oven of magnetic induction and a power supply capable of delivering 60 volts at 5 to 10 amps.


Once the cell is assembled I connect the positive terminal of the power supply to the positive (copper side) of the cell. Negatives the same. I apply a 60 Volts and let the current flow. It will go from 10 Amps to 5 to 3 to 2 Amps and so on until the cell goes dry. The cell will be ready for next phase when there still current going through while dry as it can be and room temperature. If running the power supply for more than 15 minutes does not change the current dissipation then it is done.


On this second run (second phase - ""cooking"") I add plenty of saturated Epson Solution to the cell to make it very, very wet. Turn on the Oven and keep it at 120 Celcius temperature ON THE CELL SURROUNDINGS. Apply voltage and let it cook and sizzle. I Keep adding Epson Solution and observe how the crystal will grow quickly and become very hard pure white powder. I may have to repeat this process many times until you see this very white powder inside the cell. IT IS A MUST.


At the same time I observe the CURRENT going through the Cell and how it is reflected on the CELL ITSELF while cooking. This gives me a sense of how electricity is helping the formation of the CELL'S "tunnels" where water will flow and GIVE ITS ENERGY to the Cell.


This process might be repeated many times. I proper totally dry cooked formed cell will allow current going through of about 30 ma for a 60 V applied pressure. If current flows below 5 ma it means that the cell is dead and needs to go to the "cooking" again.


Once I create about 5 cells I put then together in series and connect an LED. It should light it up. 10 Cells in series will give a good light. This group of cells will die. Now comes the next phase - feeding and growing and forming NATURALLY.


This Zinc cell loves water. All the Zinc will eventually be gone and transformed into something else and the cell will die. Now, that is the real death of the cell. Usually people stop here.


Now that i have a cell that is dead, it is time to revive her and let her live with the only thing she needs, WATER. Add a few drops of distilled water with Epson Salts (the concentration will depend in how fast crystal grows and temperature - I start with 1/2 volume of each). I put them into a warm place in the house, in my case in the HEAT machine in the basement. The crystal will grow and so her ability of producing power.


Feeding the cell with water is crucial in for the SLOW NATURAL FORMATION of the crystal of the cell. A LOAD MUST BE ATTACHED otherwise it does not work. I noticed that while the crystals grow while current is flowing causes the water to be the FUEL. At least this is what I THINK. I am probably ultra wrong!


Unfortunately the normal galvanic reaction that does exist masks everything. I do have cells that do not go through the galvanic process but for this Zinc cell it is different. Once the Zinc is GONE you will finally have a non-galvanic crystal cell.


This same cell process described here will perform 10 times better inside a sealed water proof container with a limited initial amount of water added before sealing. Those are the cells I used with Resins.




I will post pics and videos soon. So much to do!


Fausto.

[profitis]

"The geometry is simple:  Copper Plate - Paper Tower
impregnated [/size]with Epson Salts saturated
solution - Paper Towel impregnated with MnO2 - Zinc
Plate."

Interesting.this setup will burn through many stages 1st Cu2+ e-,2nd MnO2 + H+ e-,3rd O2 + H+ + e-,finaly O2 + h2O + e- it'l burn longtime yes