The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

[lumen]

Right. The first video is supposed to be Ramadan's design, not Syair's. Personally, I am not going to waste my time trying to figure out what's inside Ramadan's motor. There is nothing to go on.

It's Syair's newer design that has my attention.

Well at least we both understand what is going on here.
I don't believe that Syair's newer design will operate anything like what was shown because it simply rotates magnetized iron which is no different than rotating the magnets themselves.

You can easily just rotate a 3 phase motor with another motor and generate power which is only the iron rotating, but if you draw any current it will drag just the same as rotating magnets. So it's quite possible that Syair is building another generator with his plans and it will not operate as expected.

It would nice if I was wrong but his design is not new and provides for no OU.

[T-1000]

Well at least we both understand what is going on here.
I don't believe that Syair's newer design will operate anything like what was shown because it simply rotates magnetized iron which is no different than rotating the magnets themselves.

You can easily just rotate a 3 phase motor with another motor and generate power which is only the iron rotating, but if you draw any current it will drag just the same as rotating magnets. So it's quite possible that Syair is building another generator with his plans and it will not operate as expected.

It would nice if I was wrong but his design is not new and provides for no OU.

If on CAD drawing  in another forum thread the W. Gary magnetic effect  is followed there is different effect than moving magnet itself. The moving magnet changes polarity N to S and S to N while moving iron only exposes 1 magnetic pole and strenghens magnetic field while approaching then weakens it it when going away. The coil still will make same polarities but due iron remagnetization propery it will become N+N or N+S magnet for a time of changng magnetic field which is unstable in iron.  To see what is happening  there your best bet is a small scale testing unit with magnet, moving iron bar between magnet and shorted coil then seeing how it is working for real when W. Gary magnetic effect is followed...

[ekimtoor1]

I think this is on topic: http://www.resonantfractals.org/Magnetism/SpinningCylinder.htm

I'd be interested to read your comments on whether this is related to the effect being sought.

[Jimboot]

I think this is on topic: http://www.resonantfractals.org/Magnetism/SpinningCylinder.htm

I'd be interested to read your comments on whether this is related to the effect being sought.

Thanks for that - a very interesting read.

[T-1000]

I think this is on topic: http://www.resonantfractals.org/Magnetism/SpinningCylinder.htm

I'd be interested to read your comments on whether this is related to the effect being sought.

Thanks, that was interesting find.

"It would seem Electronics techs have not been accurately informed, of a force present in electronics, which is 137 times more powerful then the magnetic field.
Namely the Strong Force found operating from the Proton shell inwards in physics.
This force has different qualities, which may not be apparent to an electronics engineer or technician. It operates from a spherical base to organize electric fields from a center of spin, or a center of torque.
It has ability to interact or to react to a moving magnetic field with 137 times the reflective power, and also to couple inertial forces between copper and iron elements.

These inertial fields are capable of transferring enough energy to hurl a magnet across the room at high velocity and smash it into the wall.
This is far more power then any two magnets can generate from their poles alone in repelling opposition.
Repelling poles of a magnetic field from iron, actually decouple this torsion force, and can be used to create magnetic bearings which are frictionless and will not transfer torque at all.
The copper generates a repelling force that couples the inertial spin also, and does not even bend the magnetic flux in the process."

The moving iron between copper coils and magnets just fit there as good as described in quote...