Johann E. E. Bessler and his clues

[AB Hammer]

now we just sit back and watch how many people try to own this information on other sites as if they discovered it When people say it died with him they where wrong he left it for someone who thinks like me to find that's all.

Domenic

Domenic

That is an interesting assumption of claim. Most of what you have written and shown is well known with those who build and studied Bessler. There are still factors that the build will tell you which will not allow a running wheel. The problems is in your trade offs with greater weights for longer lengths. Now I am not saying that trade offs are not possible, just not probable.

If you study other sights forums that talk about Bessler. You will see many ideas have already been tried. Just remember it has been 300+ years since Bessler and thousands before that.

Alan

[dom444]

I understand the trade offs you speak of and that makes sens in a semi static system of fixed weights moving around a wheel, one against the other, but people seam to forget or overlook that lowly peg, we all know of but no one figures in to the mechanism, Bessler himself never spoke of it but he did show it in the toy diagram if you know how to read it, Count Karl did see it with his own eyes and spoke of it.

that peg and where it is placed controls and times the main motive force which causes the wheel to continue spinning, but no most people pretend it did not exist or was some unnecessary extra.

I have seen many peoples ideas on Besslers wheel but have not seen anything that times an event at the right place on the wheel to change the dynamics of the weight displacements.

[AB Hammer]

Domenic

A member known as Circle on this forum describes peg use and if you sign in at Bessler's Wheel and do a search for pegs you will find several more and you can also look at the albums and you will find pictures. But it is true that most don't consider pegs much on most build designs. I will be building Circle's wheel when life allows me the time from survival and my own scheduled builds.

The uses of pegs in my book are used for effects of actions and timing units. It seems you are mainly using them for Timing.  I will leave effects out of this string to keep in direction of your timing units.

Alan

[dom444]

Alan

The reason i say timing is because the event that causes the wheel to continue spinning takes place at between 1&3 o'clock from what i can understand
by the clues, and i believe gravity is what allows the peg to release the weights and do  what it does , and in the process causes  the weights to release on the descending side which coincides with what observers have heard.

Domenic

[AB Hammer]

Domenic

Shifts between 1 & 3 o'clock positions are good positions of shift and would require reset positions to between 5 & 8 o'clock for best results. We tend to look at wheels in the stagnant positions to see what may happen. We also have to keep in mind that in a wheel at 60rpm give only 1 second for all shifts to take place and only 2 seconds for a 30rpm wheel. Not to mention CF effects which tends to keep things at the edge of a wheel. Then we consider the angular momentum and increased effects of increased weight effect of a pendulum at 6 o'clock. All factors take place and will create heat due to friction.

So for each action you only have X amount of time and on the descending side  any falling weight will tend to run out of time for the speed of the fall, thus the problem with pegs that require gravity to make them shift. So if you are using the pegs for timing? Your best bet for actions are on the ascending side of the wheel for you have the gravity and the speed of the wheel to make for a more positive and effective shift.

I do have a lot of experience of wheel effect.  http://youtu.be/Ny7O7bAn2uU

Alan