Johann E. E. Bessler and his clues

[dom444]

I was hooked on his wheel about 20 years ago when i had read about it in a perpetual motion book but had no idea he had left clues  till this week
I know there have been a million ideas on how it worked and here is mine based on what he has shown us and it seems to fit his description rather well

first you must look at this clue i think he is showing us the secret to both his wheels here the one way early wheel and the one that turns in both directions

Clues to the Wheel's Design  Machine was set in motion by weights.
- Bessler 

  Weights acted in pairs
- Bessler 

  Weights gained force from their own swinging (or movement).
- Bessler 

  Weights came to be placed together, arranged one against another.
- Bessler 

  Weights applied force at right angles to the axis.
- Bessler 

  Springs were employed, but not as detractors suggested.
- Bessler 

  The machine's power was directly proportional to its diameter.
- Bessler 

  Weights may have been pierced in the middle and attached by connecting springs (observer speculation).
- Acta Eridutorum, An Account of the Perpetuum Mobile of J. E. E. Orffyreus, 1715 

  Weights were heard hitting the side of the wheel going down.
- eyewitness accounts 

  Machine (Gera wheel) made scratching noises, as if parts or poles moved over one another.
- eyewitness accounts 

  Weights may have been attached to movable or elastic arms on the periphery of the wheel (observer speculation).
- Johann Christian Wolff, eyewitness account 

  Weights may have landed on planks/boards at right angles to the circumference of the wheel.
- Johann Christian Wolff, eyewitness account 

  Weights were cylindrical.
- Johann Christian Wolff, eyewitness account 

  About 8 weights fell during each revolution of the wheel, which took about 3 seconds. (Kassel wheel diameter ~ 12 feet)
- Joseph Fischer, eyewitness account





When the oiled cloth was removed and left nude wrote Count Karl, he found himself gazing upon a very simple arrangement of weights and levers. He never disclosed the secret what he had seen. However, Karl did state to his ministers that he believed the wheel was a true perpetual motion machine and he was amazed that no one had invented a similar machine before Bessler.  He also stated that machine was so simple and easy to understand that a "carpenters boy" could build one after seeing inside the wheel.



Leibniz and his student remained confused about the source of motive power that moved machine. Orffyreus explained that by the grace of almighty he had conceived a system whereby the weights one side of the wheel were farther from the axle than the weights on the other side of the wheel, creating an imbalance which caused the wheel to rotate.  The secret laid in the ingenuity of the design by which weights on the ascending side of the wheel were prevented from following their normal path next to the rim.  Count Karl explained that small pegs, which swung back out of the way as the weight passed the zenith, blocked these weights. Again Karl assured Orffyreus not to disclose or use Bessler's secret until a sale had been finalised.

[hartiberlin]

Yes, that could it be.. !

Really bright ideas !

Can somebody wth WM2D or with a different 3D simulator try this please out !

Small tip, where he wrote PIVOT is the fixation to the wheel, so these see-saw type
devices strech their weights out at the right side of the wheel , so they turn clockwise !

So in these Pivot points they are fixed to the wheel !

Pretty simple, if this will really work ?

Regards. Stefan.

[AB Hammer]

dom444

Welcome to the forum. I see you are reading about Bessler. The simple designs you have shown are well know for most of us you have followed Bessler have tried them. Changing height for width as an old college would say. I myself have physically built the second one before and it just sat there. There is a trick to reading the toy page IMHO of course.  But it looks like you are on the Bessler path and it is an interesting one to follow.   just another note for you CF will give you trouble as it did myself. I spun the one wheel and all the parts just stayed out and then it came to a stand still.

Again Welcome to the forum

Alan

[dom444]

I think the trick is in the construction and how well the system is built in particular the peg he talks about and the placement  of that peg is important
and the other factor is the T pendulum he shows a lot of these system will not work because centripetal force  will lock everything up unless slowed down to a point where everything has time to work.
this point is often left out when replicating the wheel I have seen a lot of peoples efforts and I have tried a few my self  but this wheel as simple as it is needs the precision of a clock to work,  Bessler was also an apprentice watchmaker.

why is it when people replicate other peoples work they feel a need to change something the first time it is built we seem to find it hard to make it exactly like the original then if it works and you understand the principals then you can change it i have not seen one replication with the T pendulum yet including my self I am sure he doesn't just show it for window dressing but i think it plays a key roll and if implemented many other wheel designs could work as well.

Bessler said the T pendulum was there so it does not spin out of control he was not telling the truth it is there to slow the wheel down to the point where
the parts have time to work as well as add imputes to the turning wheel.

another point is selection of weights the scissor arrangement needs to have the weights selected carefully if you pivot it full extended at the point i indicate the smaller weight should balance with the big weight at the back. but because it will be extended to the edge of the wheel it  will give it a lever advantage over the center of the wheel (Axel), as i said the principal is simple but the implementation is the trick.

[dom444]

And about the clues the way i see them A is the side view E and shows up a lot in his pictures, you will also find the A's he often writes as a scissor including X's he is dropping a hint.

G is showing the peg the right side is sitting on one made up of B showing the timing