Lenz free generator

[i_ron]

Hi Dieter,


Here is my build of your first version:


The 'slugs' are cast iron, the magnets two 1/8th x 1 inch neos, the motion about 10 mm


The induced voltage is only 1.21 volts pk to pk


In the scope shot, channel A is a small air core coil to show normal induction (no slug) and to provide the trigger. note that normally the two channels would be 180 degrees out of phase but I have left one channel connected backwards to show the comparison better.


In channel A the peak voltage is when the magnet approaches the coil most closely.


In channel B the maximum voltage is when the slug approaches the coil/core. There is another peak when the slug approaches the magnet.


Unfortunately because of the large gaps the output is very feeble, to the point of being unusable as a practical device.


Four second video at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQkmiot6_8w&feature=youtu.be


Ron

[i_ron]

Well, version two on the test bed/.


Just in round numbers, output 2.36 watts, prime mover increased draw 2.4 watts
so no free lunch here, mind you that is very efficient.


In effect it is a variable reluctance generator


Test conditions:


1750 RPM, 8 laminated slugs 12,5mm by 25 mm dia. laminated core. 8.39 volts AC no load, 4.14 volts over 7.2 ohm load.


Ron

[tinman]

Well, version two on the test bed/.


Just in round numbers, output 2.36 watts, prime mover increased draw 2.4 watts
so no free lunch here, mind you that is very efficient.


In effect it is a variable reluctance generator


Test conditions:


1750 RPM, 8 laminated slugs 12,5mm by 25 mm dia. laminated core. 8.39 volts AC no load, 4.14 volts over 7.2 ohm load.


Ron

Ron

Are you saying the P/in was 2.4 watts to the prime mover,and output was 2.36 watts?-or are you saying the prime mover power/in went up a further 2.4 watts?

If the P/in total is 2.4 watt's,and the output is 2.36 watts,then i suggest you calculate the power being dissipated by the motor it self-as waste heat,and also take into account the power being dissipated as waste heat by the generating coil it self-not just the electrical power out from the generating coil-->this is something many fail to take into account when making P/out measurements.


Brad

[i_ron]

Ron

Are you saying the P/in was 2.4 watts to the prime mover,and output was 2.36 watts?-or are you saying the prime mover power/in went up a further 2.4 watts?

If the P/in total is 2.4 watt's,and the output is 2.36 watts,then i suggest you calculate the power being dissipated by the motor it self-as waste heat,and also take into account the power being dissipated as waste heat by the generating coil it self-not just the electrical power out from the generating coil-->this is something many fail to take into account when making P/out measurements.


Brad

Sorry I thought "increased draw" was clear?


P/in is 44.4 watts no load. Under load this increased to 46.8 watts


What I was indicating is this is not Lenz. free as  claimed


Thanks for the come back though!


Ron
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[tinman]

Sorry I thought "increased draw" was clear?


P/in is 44.4 watts no load. Under load this increased to 46.8 watts


What I was indicating is this is not Lenz. free as  claimed


Thanks for the come back though!


Ron
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Ah ok.

The thing most do not realize is that if there is no Lenz/lorentz force,then there is no generation of power.

You actually have to do the opposite,and increase the lorentz force,but at the same time,you have to configure the geometry of the generator correctly.


Brad