Lenz free generator

[tinman]

AC

How is that pulse motor coming along ?


Brad

[EMJunkie]

As with all electromagnetic induction machines,i was referring to the resistance of current flow through the coil-impedance,caused by a change in inductance value.
Of course the stationary DC resistance remains the same,but what good is a stationary(not running) motor?.
When explaining a running motor as such as PL was !trying! to do,you should always be referring to the resistance to current flow,not the bloody rest state resistance of a coil of wire.

Brad, I think you have miss understood.

The Impedance (Z), is the Sum of the DC Resistance (R) + the Reactance (X), to Current (I) Flow, this includes the DC Resistance (R) and also the Reactive (X) Components! so we might see 102 Ohms of Impedance (Z) to the Current (I) - Which is 12 (DC Resistance (R)) + 80 (Reactance (X)) = 102 Ohme (Ω).

This is what regulates the Current Flow through a Coil of Wire, over Time (t).

You can place all the keepers you like around the coil,to try and make it more efficient,but simply replacing that chunk of iron(the piston) with a PM will improve the efficiency of that solenoid motor 5x plus for the same P/in,and no keepers required around the coil--oh,and it will also deliver more electrical energy to the charge battery.

Of course this is right, as with all "Generators" Faradays Law is solid. After all thats what the Fly Back, or Inductive Kick Back is, the time rate of change of the Magnetic Field.

Once again,like JMs dynaflux generator,we see the macrame army bringing out the worst of the worst.
The books of secrets should be renamed to--how to make idiotic bathroom heaters.

These guys(the macrame army crew),try so hard to push motors that are not generator-such as the one PL just showed in that video. This thread title is about trying to defeat Lenz,when in actual fact,you should be trying to increase Lenz,trying to make a motor that is also a very efficient generator. I have shown just how much current a brushed DC motor draws when there is no self induced BackEMF--12 volts at over 15 amps,but when the BackEMF is present,it draws 12 volts at 300mA--and can now also do work.

Yes, agreed, again, Lenz's Law is important! It is Energy in the Coil!!! Its Current with Potential, and yes we need to maximise this to the best of our abiity!!!

We dont want this to reflect directly back on our Input, however!!!

So, Defeating Lenz's Law is perhaps not the best term, thus the reason I bought forward the WardForce Generator. This machine shows how it is possible to redirect the Magnetic Field, so there is no direct reflection back on the Input, this enables the Rotor to Speed Up, and the higher the load, the faster the Rotor will spin. Not new I know, but as I said a good learning tool for those that want to learn. Its cheap and easy to build!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[i_ron]

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You can place all the keepers you like around the coil,to try and make it more efficient,but simply replacing that chunk of iron(the piston) with a PM will improve the efficiency of that solenoid motor 5x plus for the same P/in,and no keepers required around the coil--oh,and it will also deliver more electrical energy to the charge battery.

Brad

Ah yes, but then on each portion of the stroke you have a induced EMF, turning it into a generator and with it, all the associated generator problems. A plain steel plunger does not generate/induce on the return stroke. On the "power stroke" with a fixed center pin the plunger and fixed pin wish, very strongly, to unite and become the block wall. This is where the force is in a properly designed solenoid.


Mind you there is one experiment I have not tried yet and that is an external magnet, which seems to have a positive effect sometimes.


Ron

[tinman]

Brad, I think you have miss understood.



This is what regulates the Current Flow through a Coil of Wire, over Time (t).




Of course this is right, as with all "Generators" Faradays Law is solid. After all thats what the Fly Back, or Inductive Kick Back is, the time rate of change of the Magnetic Field.



Yes, agreed, again, Lenz's Law is important! It is Energy in the Coil!!! Its Current with Potential, and yes we need to maximise this to the best of our abiity!!!

We dont want this to reflect directly back on our Input, however!!!

So, Defeating Lenz's Law is perhaps not the best term, thus the reason I bought forward the WardForce Generator. This machine shows how it is possible to redirect the Magnetic Field, so there is no direct reflection back on the Input, this enables the Rotor to Speed Up, and the higher the load, the faster the Rotor will spin. Not new I know, but as I said a good learning tool for those that want to learn. Its cheap and easy to build!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

The Impedance (Z), is the Sum of the DC Resistance (R) + the Reactance (X), to Current (I) Flow, this includes the DC Resistance (R) and also the Reactive (X) Components! so we might see 102 Ohms of Impedance (Z) to the Current (I) - Which is 12 (DC Resistance (R)) + 80 (Reactance (X)) = 102 Ohme (Ω).

And what happens when there is a change in reactance value ?

[tinman]

Mind you there is one experiment I have not tried yet and that is an external magnet, which seems to have a positive effect sometimes.


Ron

Ah yes, but then on each portion of the stroke you have a induced EMF, turning it into a generator and with it, all the associated generator problems. A plain steel plunger does not generate/induce on the return stroke. On the "power stroke" with a fixed center pin the plunger and fixed pin wish, very strongly, to unite and become the block wall. This is where the force is in a properly designed solenoid.

Regardless of whether it is a steel piston,or a PM piston,it is still a generator when running,if not,what is charging the battery shown in the video?--yes,a generated current from the collapsing magnetic field. An inductor is a current source.
Second,as soon as current flows through the coil,the steel piston becomes a temporary magnet,that has an opposite field to that of the solenoid,if it did not,it would not be attracted to the field generated by the solenoid.

turning it into a generator and with it, all the associated generator problems

And this is where the thinking is wrong.
Problems arise when there is no generating action. When you reduce or eliminate BackEMF,you make your self a bathroom heater.

I have just started building a solenoid motor,as i have not really built one before--only on a small scale. Once done,we will be able to swap out the PM piston for a steel,iron one,and we can then see which is more efficient,in both inductive kickback energy,and mechanical output power,for a given P./in.


Brad