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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: MileHigh on June 20, 2015, 11:24:53 PM
Timnan:

A box that says "shorting circuit" is not a valid part of your electrical schematic.  You can put an extra 15% into your efforts to make your presentation clear and comprehensible.  I flat-out refuse to invest 500% more energy on my side into understanding your circuit than I should have to because you are too lazy to present your data properly.  You already see the questions being posed to you to try to fill in the holes.

I will leave you in the excellent hands of Mark and PW.

MileHigh
I disagree.  Tinman wants to keep that part proprietary and I have no objection.  He has a clearly delineated input, and a clearly delineated output.  What is in-between doesn't matter for any kind of initial determination as to whether he has something that appears to generate energy or not.  He has asked for a fair review on a black box basis and that can be done. 

What needs to be eliminated is any possibility of a sneak current path through the test equipment common.  His waveforms have low enough ripple that he will get pretty good data from DMMs alone.  So test data taken with the scope completely disconnected from the circuit should be reliable.  I have suggested a couple of decoupling improvements that would affect typical accuracy by a couple of percent.  If there is not a problem of EMI fouling his meters, the DMMs should work well.  If the data looks strange, then we can check for EMI issues then.

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on June 20, 2015, 11:23:53 PM


The scope has no effect at all on the operation or measurements of the system. The scope is ground isolated.

Tinman it is current that could conduct between the input ref and the output ref by way of the scope probe black leads that we also want to make sure is not causing erroneous readings.

picowatt

Tinman,

Is the switch S1 drawn in the correct position?

From watching the video, I would have guessed that the switch was on the other side of the diode/cap connection.

PW

tinman

Quote from: picowatt on June 21, 2015, 12:14:36 AM
Tinman,

Is the switch S1 drawn in the correct position?

From watching the video, I would have guessed that the switch was on the other side of the diode/cap connection.

PW
The switch is in the correct position. It was placed there so as i could measure the maximum output voltage within the cap when the load was removed and the switch is switched off to remove any noise voltage from the cap voltage measurement.The voltage peak's at 53 volt's.
The switch is an addition,and needed to be there,as if i switch of the motor before the bulb,the transistor blows for some reason. Im guessing the inductive spike voltage/current from the rotor when the motor is disconnected, is some how getting back to the base of the transistor.

tinman

Quote from: MarkE on June 20, 2015, 11:36:18 PM


What needs to be eliminated is any possibility of a sneak current path through the test equipment common.  His waveforms have low enough ripple that he will get pretty good data from DMMs alone.  So test data taken with the scope completely disconnected from the circuit should be reliable.  I have suggested a couple of decoupling improvements that would affect typical accuracy by a couple of percent.  If there is not a problem of EMI fouling his meters, the DMMs should work well.  If the data looks strange, then we can check for EMI issues then.

Already onto it Mark,as i knew this was coming.
Video is uploading now,and i will post it as soon as it is done.