Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[picowatt]

@Synchro1,

I have never ever done this so called "Shorting"!

Please, make no assumptions here! Partnered Output Coils require no "Shorting"!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Indeed, no assumptions should be made...

I see very little in common between your "partnered coils" and Tinman's device.

PW

[EMJunkie]

Indeed, no assumptions should be made...

I see very little in common between your "partnered coils" and Tinman's device.

PW

PW, there is a very good reason for this issue you have.

I can only quote from Tinman:

They also dismiss EMJ's shorted coil theory,and although he hasnt shown a working device yet,and he messed up the scope measurements,his theory is sound.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[picowatt]

Yes, PW, you're right. This is Tinman's design, he made it work, he is the Inventor.

He has done well and it is his choice if he decides to show what's really going on.

Importantly, this is one of hundreds of ways that Partnered Output Coils can work, so I urge no one to limit themselves! Use what information you can, then use your own intuition! Become your own inventor!

What Tinman's Invention does show, is that Partnered Output Coils work! Its real, simple, cheap to work with and what's more it can be made to work many ways!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Tinman's device demonstrates his work, not yours.

Other than both using wire, Tinman's device and your "partnered coils" have little in common.

Tinman's work has more in common with previous attempts and discussions related to the use of
coil shorting to reduce Lenz.

That said, I find Tinman's results quite interesting and hope he will share more with us in time.

PW 

[tinman]

This is quite interesting, the way this is going! Re Timnan's Rotary Transformer:

Lets look at this in some detail.


 



Remember DC Current drops on the Input after this circuit is switched in!, Shorting a Coil will not give you this result!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

We have two Coils, 1 Resistor, 1 DC Electrolytic Cap, more were added for De-Coupling request later on by our resident EE Guru's. 1 Fett, or Transistor and one Single Pole AC Motor.

Plus the components you dont see in the basic measuring point schematic.

Importantly, each Coil is drawn, as a parallel Connection to each other,

No they are not.Each coil is connected to the cap,but separated by the mosfet and diode.

all Single Pole Electric Motors may not work for this reason!

Im not sure what your reason is,but it is true that not all universal motors will work straight up. Some may require that the coils be rewound on the stator-->as in the case of my larger universal motor.

Now, to this Mysterious Shorting! Tinman seems to be holding this quite close to his chest,

You bet your ass i am-->for reasons i have explained.

I sort of understand, but unfortunately, this will not help anyone to move forward.

As was clearly explained right from the start. I only posted the test results and a basic schematic for measurement points only,as MH requested that i back up my claim with evidence.I had no intention of disclosing the device and the completed schematics as a whole,but only the results shown by the device.

I agree with him that all should have to work hard for this and not made available to the Pilferers of society! However, this is creating confusion, where there should be none! Deliberate confusion helps no one!

I have done nothing of a sort,and the only confusion here is the misunderstanding that i was here to present a complete device and schematic for others to replicate. It was only presented for measurement confirmation <-- still to come.

So, some questions, ask yourself, what's going to happen when a "Shorting" occurs?

1: Cap will be short Circuited

No it wont.


 

2: One or Both Coils will be shorted depending on the polarity of the Diode and Transistor

Only coil B is shorted.

 

3: Huge current will be seen by the Transistor and likely will not survive! 10.40 Volts / Estimated on resistance of 0.25 Ohms = 41.6 Amps Not including the drawn resistor on the Switched in Coil.

Where did you get .25 ohms for resistance from? Coils A and B's resistance is 3.2 ohms. At 10.4 volts across 3 ohms is only 3,25 amp's. The IRF540 will handle a continuous drain current of 20 amp's at 100*C, and a pulsed current of 100 amps. Why will the fet not survive?.

So, "Shorting" is a very unlikely methodology here! Maybe this should be termed "Switching In" the Second Partnered Output Coil instead!

Shorting coil B is exactly what happens. These are not partnered coil's,as they both have very different jobs.

You need to really look at this is some detail! Make NO Assumptions here, be open and ask yourself, "What is it that Tinman is actually, so called, "Shorting"?"

TinMan is shorting coil B.

I think there was a mix up with the coil shorting and partnered coil situation EMJ.  What i was meaning is both situations cause a bucking magnetic field.
I think many people here also are a bit confused as to how and where the magnetic fields are on the rotor in regards to the position of the stators magnetic field. The rotors fields are actually between(close to) the two stator fields,not close to the center of each stator field<-- im talking about the motor being in standard operation mode here.

So before anyone else tries to replicate this device,lets make sure i havnt screw'd up the measurements first. Then we will go from there.
What i dont want is this being another UFOpolotics situation ,where people spend there time and money on something that dosnt work as i have claimed.

[EMJunkie]

Tinman's device demonstrates his work, not yours.

Other than both using wire, Tinman's device and your "partnered coils" have little in common.

Tinman's work has more in common with previous attempts and discussions related to the use of
coil shorting to reduce Lenz.

That said, I find Tinman's results quite interesting and hope he will share more with us in time.

PW

PW, I think you're a bit unset now? Are you going to be ok?

I have a Hankie if you need it 

Yes, he has done well, and if he shares, then good, if not then fine also.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org