Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[tinman]

LOL, well if you think the failure to falsify CoE over hundreds of years makes acceptance of CoE blind faith, then you are welcome to hold such an idea no matter how blatantly it ignores reality.Yes the video is interesting.  Interesting YT videos do not rise to falsification of First Principles.TK does:  The millions of times that every single attempt to falsify CoE have failed constitutes extremely strong evidence that CoE cannot be falsified.  That is why it is expressed as a law.  It remains a law until someone successfully falsifies it. You admit the evidence so far with tinman's demonstrations is inconclusive.LOL, it boggles my mind every time someone dismisses First Principles.  There is no kind way to describe the kind of willfull idiocy one needs to engage in to set aside the monumental evidence that supports First Principles and declare them some sort of dogma.

They are not laws Mark,they are theories based around known effects and outcomes so far. It is much like the magnetic field. We build devices that work around or via way of magnetic fields,and then we come up with theories based around those working principles that describes the magnetic field. This dose not mean that the description is correct,it only means that it fits in with what we know-so that will do until we know more.My wife has no idea how the ICE in her car moves that car-she just knows that it dose,and that is good enough for her. She dosnt need to know any more than that in order for her car to take her to the stores and back each day.

The reason they are theories and not laws is to give room for change,or adding those variables as they do quite often when something new is discovered.

[Void]

LOL, well if you think the failure to falsify CoE over hundreds of years makes acceptance of CoE blind faith, then you are welcome to hold such an idea no matter how blatantly it ignores reality.Yes the video is interesting.  Interesting YT videos do not rise to falsification of First Principles.TK does:  The millions of times that every single attempt to falsify CoE have failed constitutes extremely strong evidence that CoE cannot be falsified.  That is why it is expressed as a law.  It remains a law until someone successfully falsifies it. You admit the evidence so far with tinman's demonstrations is inconclusive.LOL, it boggles my mind every time someone dismisses First Principles.  There is no kind way to describe the kind of willfull idiocy one needs to engage in to set aside the monumental evidence that supports First Principles and declare them some sort of dogma.

MarkE, I haven't a clue what you are going on about. I haven't said one word about there
being a violation of the principle of conversation of energy. A heat pump has COP > 1,
but a heat pump does not violate the principle of conservation of energy. In order to investigate something,
we need to observe what the evidence is showing and work with that evidence. We shouldn't dismiss things
just because we imagine it may be violating some principle which we hold dear.  You are imagining something in your
head and projecting that onto me, but again, I have said nothing at all about this having to be a violation of conservation
of energy. I have only said the mesaurements look fine to me based on what we can see in the videos. If someone says
they know that this is not COP > 1, then they must have a good reason if they really know such a thing.
It is one thing for someone to say they are inclined to think it is not COP > 1, but if they say they 'know' this, then
they would have to have some valid reason beyond blind faith.

[tinman]

Tinman,


It is a shame that the measurements being performed were curtailed so abruptly.

PW

Would it be possible for you to continue discussing, performing, and posting measurements of your device as only a "black box"? 

That is, consider covering everything up with access/visibility to only the input/output wires and the switch.

Are you serious PW?. I did my best to keep everything out in the open,so as everyone could see and trace the P/in and P/out wires,and still there are many accusing me of posting fake video's.
Now you want me to cover everything up,and shoot some more test video's showing only the wires from the battery in,and the wires from the unit out? Can you guess what will happen if i do this?.

What i should have done was spent more money,and built the whole thing on a clear plexiglass sheet. But even then,i doubt that this would have swayed the non believers.

[Void]

No,i cant give you an accurate account of what took place,as what has happened here is that many feel that what they saw in the 3 video's was all that was shown.There was more that went on that was not posted here,and i believe a combination of events took place all at one time which involved another person-->that is about as much as i can say ATM,as it is a little unclear as to what happened on the other end,as the Email address that has been used for many years now seems to be an invalid address for some reason,and i am unable to contact the second party ATM.

Thanks for the explanation Tinman. No worries mate. I think that helps anyway. You seem to have something interesting
going on with your RT, so good luck with the experiments! I will follow along on whatever else you may be inclined
to post about this, and maybe I will learn something more about electric motors in the process. Thanks for posting what you
have so far.
All the best...

[MarkE]

MarkE, I haven't a clue what you are going on about. I haven't said one word about there
being a violation of the principle of conversation of energy. A heat pump has COP > 1,
but a heat pump does not violate the principle of conservation of energy.

Play silly games all you like.  You claimed that TK or my treating CoE as law is blind faith.  I will not sugar coat what a phenomenally stupid claim that is.

In order to investigate something,
we need to observe what the evidence is showing and work with that evidence. We shouldn't dismiss things
just because we imagine it may be violating some principle which we hold dear.[/qutoe]But tht is exactly what you have done.  You dismiss the incredible mass of evidence behind First Principles because of some curious demonstrations.

You are imagining something in your
head and projecting that onto me, but again, I have said nothing at all about this having to be a violation of conservation
of energy.

LOL, sure, you simply assert that taking First Principles as fact is a matter of blind faith.  As I said, you can play silly games all you like.

I have only said the mesaurements look fine to me based on what we can see in the videos. If someone says
they know that this is not COP > 1, then they must have a good reason if they really know such a thing.

TK did not say anything about COP.  TK discussed energy out versus energy in.

It is one thing for someone to say they are inclined to think it is not COP > 1, but if they say they 'know' this, then
they would have to have some valid reason beyond blind faith.

Keep working your COP based strawman if that entertains you.  TK has not discussed COP and neither have I.