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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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hyiq


Quote from: partzman on February 17, 2017, 10:14:56 AM
Chris,

We all have more to learn concerning electromagnetic induction.  Two authors on the subject I find most enlightening are Edwards and Saha.  I've attached two of their papers below.

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Hi Partzman - I couldn't agree more. The more I learn, the more I realise I have yet to learn.


Thank you for the pdf's!


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

hyiq


Quote from: MichelM on February 17, 2017, 11:54:14 AM
Chris,

So for Luc's replication, if I understand correctly, is this the right connection ?






Hi MichelM - No - You need to go back and re-read the posts we posted about this.


Quote from: hyiq on February 14, 2017, 07:47:06 PM


Dog-One - Beautifully put!!!

There is a kind of Magnetic Symmetry between the POC. This SHOULD keep people up at night, studying why this is so! This fact alone proves several things, and some here will already know, its just a phasing between the two coils, and this is true, but its also more!

GotoLuc has the Winding Direction Correct! For the Configuration he has chosen! Also the Wiring Is Correct! He has paid attention there. And so he should, I spent nearly a year (For Free) trying to help him and Tesla Energy Solutions, GotoLuc's Employer along with Chet K, with their experiments. TES are doing some good work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXP2v5ZkUw4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K69qAc3I_7c

Here in lies the same problems, small things that are over looked, and no attention paid to, as Luc says in the video: "that I have had and was going to replicate Wistiti's bucking coil test that he had done some many months back..." But alas, the entire concept of this thread has been missed! Bucking, or very much more importantly Opposing Magnetic Fields of the Partnered Output Coils!

@Gotoluc - I ask you to think why your Magnetic Fields are not opposing? Please do the MrPreva Experiment as suggested and explain why your Fields are not opposing?




For a long time, I have recommended the MrPreva Experiment, its very simple, and a lot can be learnt!


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org




itsu


Chris,

i am glad you are so enthusiastic:.

I have added a 4th probe (purple) across the coils showing the voltage across them (they are parallel, so having the same voltage).
We have a 90° phase difference between input voltage (purple, leading) and input current (green) as should be in an inductive circuit.
Only at resonance around 7KHz this phase creeps towards 0°.

The phase of the yellow and blue signals, representing the currents through the both coils, can be manipulated (0 - 180°) by changing the frequency.
But nowhere in the range covered (162Khz - 600Hz) i notice anything unusual.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm6K-3O8rM0

Itsu

dieter

Nice video, Itsu,


would you do me a favour?
hooking a big cap in parallel with one of the bucking coils and do the same test once more?


I'd be really curious about the outcome.

hyiq


Quote from: itsu on February 17, 2017, 05:16:15 PM
Chris,

i am glad you are so enthusiastic:.

I have added a 4th probe (purple) across the coils showing the voltage across them (they are parallel, so having the same voltage).
We have a 90° phase difference between input voltage (purple, leading) and input current (green) as should be in an inductive circuit.
Only at resonance around 7KHz this phase creeps towards 0°.

The phase of the yellow and blue signals, representing the currents through the both coils, can be manipulated (0 - 180°) by changing the frequency.
But nowhere in the range covered (162Khz - 600Hz) i notice anything unusual.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm6K-3O8rM0

Itsu



Hey Itsu - Thanks for this post!

I am having real trouble with this sentence: "But nowhere in the range covered (162Khz - 600Hz) i notice anything unusual."

I was always taught to look at the smallest things. Break things down to the smallest possible components and take them for what they are.

Taking the Voltage and Current on each Coil individually, then comparing the individual results may help in your search?

Some Points:

   1: When the Peak to Peak Voltage across the Capacitor is at maximum the Circuit is in resonance.
   2: The Voltage and Current on Coil, LOne will be close to in phase, ± a few degrees.
   3: The Voltage and Current on the second Coil, LTwo will be 180 Degrees out of phase, ± a few degrees.

Just the first three things above are in need of investigation, let alone other things in the circuit that should have been picked up. E.G: In an LC Resonant Circuit, Voltage and Current should be 90 degrees Out of Phase, as you point out, but, your scope shot is not 90 Degrees, its closer to 45 Degrees. Why are we seeing this difference?

So, if one looks at the power factor, one see's a Negative Power Factor: -0.7986355 + Voltage and - Current on LTwo

Did you know there is a Negative Power Factor there? Have you ever seen a Negative Power Factor before? Between two Coils on a Single Core?


Quote from: Wikipedia link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_factor


In electrical engineering, the power factor of an AC electrical power system is defined as the ratio of the real power flowing to the load to the apparent power in the circuit, and is a dimensionless number in the closed interval of −1 to 1. A power factor of less than one means that the voltage and current waveforms are not in phase, reducing the instantaneous product of the two waveforms (V × I). Real power is the capacity of the circuit for performing work in a particular time. Apparent power is the product of the current and voltage of the circuit. Due to energy stored in the load and returned to the source, or due to a non-linear load that distorts the wave shape of the current drawn from the source, the apparent power will be greater than the real power. A negative power factor occurs when the device (which is normally the load) generates power, which then flows back towards the source, which is normally considered the generator.



There is a TON of things one can learn here! I want to go into massive detail, but don't want to confuse anyone.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org




P.S: Very nice job on the Video - Thanks!!!