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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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picowatt

Tinman,

Would it be possible for you to continue discussing, performing, and posting measurements of your device as only a "black box"? 

That is, consider covering everything up with access/visibility to only the input/output wires and the switch.

It is a shame that the measurements being performed were curtailed so abruptly.

PW


Void

Quote from: madama on July 17, 2015, 12:02:20 PM
do you have a logic explanation on why the motor is accelerating when the bulb is on?

Hi madama. Sorry, no, I don't; but I am not very knowledgeable about electric motor principles and theory.
The measurements do appear to be OK however, barring some bad meters or outright tricks, or something
along those lines.

MarkE

Quote from: Void on July 17, 2015, 11:48:02 AM
No, you are confusing blind faith with actual knowledge. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
LOL, well if you think the failure to falsify CoE over hundreds of years makes acceptance of CoE blind faith, then you are welcome to hold such an idea no matter how blatantly it ignores reality.
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We are not talking about claims of flying pink unicorns here. We are talking about actual measurements
that were shown in a video. I am not suggesting that such a video is proof of anything either, but
if there were no tricks then the measurements shown in the video are certainly interesting.
Yes the video is interesting.  Interesting YT videos do not rise to falsification of First Principles.
QuoteThere could possibly
be some simple explanation, and since we don't know all the circuit details I would say it is inconclusive,
but for someone to say they know it is not COP > 1, then a person would have to have a good reason for that.
TK does:  The millions of times that every single attempt to falsify CoE have failed constitutes extremely strong evidence that CoE cannot be falsified.  That is why it is expressed as a law.  It remains a law until someone successfully falsifies it. You admit the evidence so far with tinman's demonstrations is inconclusive.
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This is why I asked for the reason. Your blind faith is not a good reason. ;)
LOL, it boggles my mind every time someone dismisses First Principles.  There is no kind way to describe the kind of willfull idiocy one needs to engage in to set aside the monumental evidence that supports First Principles and declare them some sort of dogma. 

tinman

Quote from: Void on July 17, 2015, 11:08:30 AM
Hi Tinman. If you are not under any restrictions on what you can say, then why not simply explain what happened,
and clear things up? Why all the mystery? Can't blame anyone for being very skeptical if you don't explain
here, as it does seem quite unlikely that anyone would be warned by the government or whatever just
because they posted a few videos showing some odd measurement results. It appears usually people have to
have pretty much a self running 'free energy' device/machine and be very public about showing it such as going on the local news
or demonstrating at public events and that sort of thing before a government or whoever might step in. This itself is just
based on hearsay of what some other free energy inventors have claimed. It would be really helpful to everyone here
if you explained more about what you have been hinting at in a few posts. If you are not under any gag order as you say, then
explaining what happened shouldn't be a problem, right?

Regarding some people jumping all over you because you don't want to reveal more details about your RT,
IMO it's totally up to you what details you want to reveal about how your setup works, and it is totally up
to you to decide what testing you will do, or what test results you will share. The crazy thing about this forum
and others is I see people jumping all over each other or otherwise often being quite rude and nasty with many
other people here, and then they actually expect that if someone figures out how to get COP > 1 that this person should 
share it with everybody here.  :o  I don't know if you really have COP > 1, but your measurements that you
showed in your videos looked OK anyway just based on what can be seen. Since we don't know everything that is going on
behind the scenes in your setup, there is no way for anyone to know for sure if there is not some simple explanation for the mesaurement results.

All the best...

No,i cant give you an accurate account of what took place,as what has happened here is that many feel that what they saw in the 3 video's was all that was shown.There was more that went on that was not posted here,and i believe a combination of events took place all at one time which involved another person-->that is about as much as i can say ATM,as it is a little unclear as to what happened on the other end,as the Email address that has been used for many years now seems to be an invalid address for some reason,and i am unable to contact the second party ATM.

QuoteRegarding some people jumping all over you because you don't want to reveal more details about your RT,

As i stated before i posted anything,i would not be disclosing the device as a whole,and this was agreed upon by those who set the test parameters.

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on July 17, 2015, 12:33:14 PM
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As i stated before i posted anything,i would not be disclosing the device as a whole,and this was agreed upon by those who set the test parameters.
Which was and remains fine AFAIAC.