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Open Systems

Started by allcanadian, January 25, 2015, 09:23:46 AM

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MarkE

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April 26, 2015, 10:14:14 PM
Quote from: tinman on April 25, 2015, 06:01:21 AM
It shows exactly that. More force is exerted on the fan blades when the valve is open,thus more work is being done.
By the fan, which means more energy is being transferred to the fan in one condition than another.  We cannot however conclude from that information that there is any energy (steady power) surplus.
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The power to create the inflow is exactly equal to the power of the out flow with the valve closed->energy can be neither created nor destroyed.
Your accounting is wrong.  Take your handy compressor.  Attach a 1m hose.  Measure the outflow and pressure.  Attach a 10m hose.  Repeat the measurements.  Energy is still conserved.  Account for the observations.
QuoteThe rest of the power consumed to create the inflow is disipated as heat. Shall we go back to the tanks Mark?. I can set this up with the 20ltr tank,and show a run from the tank with and without the venturi open. We could put say 40psi into the tank,and wait for the gas temperature to rest at ambiant temperature,then see how long and how high the power output from our little generator go's with the venturi closed off. We could then do the exact same run with the venturi open. Which do you think will be able to do more work?.
You can perform comparative measurements all day long and they are not going to tell you what you want to know.
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