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Magnetic Engine Video

Started by vineet_kiran, March 07, 2015, 07:57:05 AM

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sm0ky2

Quote from: Low-Q on March 28, 2015, 11:18:24 AM

Honestly, you can forget everything about perpetual motion and OU. It does not exist. Whatever happened at the time of The Big Bang caused this universe to obey the physical laws we all know so well. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction - proven a trillion times. OU has not one single proof of existence.

Vidar

"whatever happened" seemed to input a whole lot of "energy" into this universe, and as such, must also mean there is a source of energy outside our universe for this to have occurred.

Which brings us to the simple fact that these "laws" we all know so well, only apply to a system that is closed, or in isolation.
We are very familiar with systems that utilize energy from sources outside the boundaries of the systems being analyzed.
Heat, Light, wind, Gravitational potential, physical motion, pressure, radiation, magnetic potential, to name a few.

When a system is designed to make use of external energy, though it cannot be labeled "pm", or "ou", still serves the same utility or economic function. Which is the conversion of this energy to provide it to us in a usable form.

These so-called "laws" of physics state that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, but the same physics that is used to describe these behaviors, can also be used to show that energy is seaming throughout all space, and that there is no such thing as a "closed" or "isolated" system. All systems have energy passing into and out of their boundaries.

Our methodology and theoretical approach, generally results in systems designed to pass energy out, resulting in loss.
But, the opposite can occur, where energy passes into the system, resulting in gain.
These are the systems we seek to advance.

So, when such a system is developed: It is common for nay-sayers to proclaim what is not possible, or must therefore be a hoax.
This is counter-productive, and goes against all that is scientific.
But rather, we should examine how energy might be passing into the system, to explain its' behavior, or identify those portions of the system which are yet unknown to us.

Many will make false claims such as: it is impossible to gain energy from a gravitational or magnetic potential.
  This is simply not true. There are situations where gravitational systems can lose energy, gain energy, or the energy can remain the same.
The same applies to magnetic systems, but in a much different manner, due to the lack of time-constraints.

Such does not make these systems "overunity", nor does such violate any "laws" of physics.
Just as energy from the sun passes into a solar-power system,  energy from atomic interactions passes into a gravitational or magnetic system. The common experience, is the opposite, however. Like a solar-panel without sun, energy will pass out of the system.  A gravitational or magnetic system passes energy out in a similar manner, but this is only due to our methodology.
It is not necessarily so in all cases.
And from our perspective, the energy available in gravitational or magnetic systems, is much in line with nuclear physics.
E = mc^2. 
We would have to consume all of the energy of the mass that we are interacting with, to "use it all up".
And that amount of available energy, to us tiny humans, can be considered near infinite.

There exists no law that states a magnetic or gravitational system (or combination of both, or others) cannot be looped.
And if looped, such system would not be technically "ou", "pm" nor violate any "laws" of physics.







I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

Low-Q

Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 29, 2015, 06:18:00 AM
"whatever happened" seemed to input a whole lot of "energy" into this universe, and as such, must also mean there is a source of energy outside our universe for this to have occurred.

Which brings us to the simple fact that these "laws" we all know so well, only apply to a system that is closed, or in isolation.
We are very familiar with systems that utilize energy from sources outside the boundaries of the systems being analyzed.
Heat, Light, wind, Gravitational potential, physical motion, pressure, radiation, magnetic potential, to name a few.

When a system is designed to make use of external energy, though it cannot be labeled "pm", or "ou", still serves the same utility or economic function. Which is the conversion of this energy to provide it to us in a usable form.

These so-called "laws" of physics state that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, but the same physics that is used to describe these behaviors, can also be used to show that energy is seaming throughout all space, and that there is no such thing as a "closed" or "isolated" system. All systems have energy passing into and out of their boundaries.

Our methodology and theoretical approach, generally results in systems designed to pass energy out, resulting in loss.
But, the opposite can occur, where energy passes into the system, resulting in gain.
These are the systems we seek to advance.

So, when such a system is developed: It is common for nay-sayers to proclaim what is not possible, or must therefore be a hoax.
This is counter-productive, and goes against all that is scientific.
But rather, we should examine how energy might be passing into the system, to explain its' behavior, or identify those portions of the system which are yet unknown to us.

Many will make false claims such as: it is impossible to gain energy from a gravitational or magnetic potential.
  This is simply not true. There are situations where gravitational systems can lose energy, gain energy, or the energy can remain the same.
The same applies to magnetic systems, but in a much different manner, due to the lack of time-constraints.

Such does not make these systems "overunity", nor does such violate any "laws" of physics.
Just as energy from the sun passes into a solar-power system,  energy from atomic interactions passes into a gravitational or magnetic system. The common experience, is the opposite, however. Like a solar-panel without sun, energy will pass out of the system.  A gravitational or magnetic system passes energy out in a similar manner, but this is only due to our methodology.
It is not necessarily so in all cases.
And from our perspective, the energy available in gravitational or magnetic systems, is much in line with nuclear physics.
E = mc^2. 
We would have to consume all of the energy of the mass that we are interacting with, to "use it all up".
And that amount of available energy, to us tiny humans, can be considered near infinite.

There exists no law that states a magnetic or gravitational system (or combination of both, or others) cannot be looped.
And if looped, such system would not be technically "ou", "pm" nor violate any "laws" of physics.
I hope you're right, but wouldn't it require an immense amount of energy to "trigger" the energy that matter has in it?
If we could, we could provide power to 1500 housholds for one year by using all the energy there is in 1 gram of matter...by accelerate a grape to a velocity of 299 798 458 m/s...


Vidar

sm0ky2

Quote from: Low-Q on March 29, 2015, 07:23:35 PM
I hope you're right, but wouldn't it require an immense amount of energy to "trigger" the energy that matter has in it?
If we could, we could provide power to 1500 housholds for one year by using all the energy there is in 1 gram of matter...by accelerate a grape to a velocity of 299 798 458 m/s...


Vidar

Perhaps, if you use the conventional nuclear approach....

However, constructive wave-interference of atomic radiation, or nucleic particle interactions (fission/fusion) is a more direct mass to energy conversion, which in a reasonably time period, we could run out of nuclear materials. I would hardly consider this technology to be "infinite", in fact, some scientists have actually placed a dead-line to running out of fissile materials.

What I was actually referring to, was the atomic energy already emanating from the mass in the form of gravitational and magnetic radiation.

to initiate a release of the energy, might not require much or any energy at all.

  NASA invented a "sling-shot" maneuver that could be one example, by approaching a mass at a specific angle, they are able to accelerate a craft greatly, without consuming much fuel at all during the acceleration. This, in a sense, "drains" energy from the gravitational field, by a tiny amount. ( at least in theory... though it has not yet been proven to drain anything)

Approaching a magnetic field in a similar manner can provide another example. I experienced this in my lab once, and nearly killed me trying to develop it further. (dangerous)


In theory, we could perform this "sling-shot" type maneuver a near infinite number of times, using the same gravitational/magnetic mass, without consuming all of its' energy/mass.

This is just one example, but human ingenuity will undoubtedly come up with several of this type of thing in the future. As some have in the past.



I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

Newton II

I think one important thing nobody noticed in this experiment. 

Pedulum is gaining energy rapidly and stopping when it runs at full energy.  Acually what is happening here is pendulum gains enrgy in each cycle due to growing repulsion (because distance gets reduced after each cycle) and when energy stored in pendulum equals the energy of repulsion, pendulum stops because they will have momentum in opposite directions.

So, if energy is constantly taken out from the pendulum the problem may be solved and pendulum may oscillate without stopping.

It also means this engine can work only 'on load' and 'off load' it stops after few cycles when pendulum energy equals the repulsion energy.


Low-Q

Quote from: Newton II on March 31, 2015, 12:13:53 AM
I think one important thing nobody noticed in this experiment. 

Pedulum is gaining energy rapidly and stopping when it runs at full energy.  Acually what is happening here is pendulum gains enrgy in each cycle due to growing repulsion (because distance gets reduced after each cycle) and when energy stored in pendulum equals the energy of repulsion, pendulum stops because they will have momentum in opposite directions.

So, if energy is constantly taken out from the pendulum the problem may be solved and pendulum may oscillate without stopping.

It also means this engine can work only 'on load' and 'off load' it stops after few cycles when pendulum energy equals the repulsion energy.
You are somehow right about "on load" and "off load". If we speak of an imbalanced wheel that can oscillate freely, it will spin for quite some time. If you PARTIALLY resist the oscillation, the wheel will stop sooner because it is loaded. But if you stop the oscillation completely, the wheel will spin for quite some time again. My point is; in first and third experiment, the oscillation isn'n loadingthe oscillation at all. Maximum load would be some where in between.
Same applies to a pendulum is that bouncing up and down. It's a bit hard for me to put this right, but I hope I've made my point somewhat clear :-)


Vidar