Tinman's coil shorting circuit

[energy1234hope]

Hi brad (tinman)
We all would like to thank you for all your efforts over the years. You are a bloody genius at what you do. Im sorry people don't appreciate all that you have given, but being an old fart that is incapable of building bugger all, like a lot of people who have been following these sites for five or ten years in the hope of someone that is a genius will help the release of motors or transformers that will change the world. i have the greatest respect for gotoluc and i am sure you do to with knowing him for years as well, if you could just go that one step further and get him to do a replication of your rotary transformer to shut up the noise that seems to have taken over this forum over the last few years with my deepest respect to you and yours ron

[gyulasun]

Hi Guys, In the original discussion , I don't recall any talk about drilling holes and inserting magnets.
Brad said that the only thing he wouldn't reveal was the circuit for the shorting, hence the block in his schematic.
If there were a magnet inserted in the stator core why is it not shown?
It seems like we keep getting steered away from the original set-up.
artv

Hi Art,

While I think Brad can defend himself, please read here what he exactly said on his setup to reveal (I put in bold the text) because he deserves correctness:

"As was clearly explained right from the start. I only posted the test results and a basic schematic for measurement points only, as MH requested that i back up my claim with evidence.  I had no intention of disclosing the device and the completed schematics as a whole, but only the results shown by the device."

The quote comes from his Reply #XXXX   June 25, 2015, 12:22:24 PM    see link here:

http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg453754/#msg453754 

Gyula

EDIT  I erased the Reply # above I gave last night   becasue it changes at random depending on whether you are logged in (#3855 or #3857) or you are a visitor only (#3862).  The link I gave is ok and leads you to Brad's quated post.   This seems to be a forum glitch...

[Vortex1]

Look closely at the RTv4 schematic from Tinman's post that you referenced. Npw ask yourself this: how is critical timing information to the FET provided when the gate drive is shown coming directly from and across the very large storage capacitor.

The best we will see across this capacitor is a very slowly changing DC potential which will drop when the load is applied. This will turn the FET on or off depending on the voltage threshold achieved, but the resulting coil shorting of coil B will not be meaningfully timed to rotation, but will lag by many seconds any critical timing required.

So maybe someone can clear this up because in light of all the talk of timed shorting of coil B, the schematic supplied does not seem to be supplying that requirement.

Some of us have reasoned that the schematic may be wrong and the signal to the FET comes directly from coil A, which would make more sense as pulses are available at that point in the circuit that are somewhat timed to rotation. We have not had this issue cleared up to date.

Also at that time there was no mention of a "second coil"

Attached is Tinman's original schematic.

[gyulasun]

Dear Vortex1,

Unfortunately, this term that Brad used: 'basic schematic for measurement points' can easily bare the lack of some wires that may have brought timing info from coil A, or can bare the lack of a second coil I think.

I agree that no critical timing info could come from the storage capacitor which normally filters out AC fluctuations. This is why I re-edited Brad"s schematic to remedy this issue and also showed MOSFET switch control possibilities in previous page when member penno64 posed the question on Brad's coil shorting circuit.

Penno64 showed his own schematic version in which the gate-source of the MOSFET is also biased by the stored DC voltage in the capacitor but it is biased via one of the stator coils i.e. a DC source and a pulsed AC source superposed would control the MOSFET switch. I wrote about this in Reply #7, previous page. 

Of course, now that Brad mentioned a second coil, we have to consider it and devise a new schematic proposal.

Of course, I understand the frustration Brad's incomplete "basic schematic" causes,  I have also been frustrated.

The problem is that Brad (who could be the first person to clear the issues up) wrote what he wrote recently in his Reply #18.

So we have to depend on his latest description that includes the so far "hidden" magnet, the iron tube, their position and a second inductor winding and all the previous info he gave mainly in June in the 'Partnered output coil' thread, plus his videos. This is from where we have to restart to "crack" this setup.

I wrote some thoughts in my Reply #22 above.  To continue the 'cracking', I would need opinions on how the two coils are meant to be connected,  based on what Brad wrote I quote:

"BTDC- Stator and second inductor are shorted together so as they act as one winding."

Does this mean that the two coils are in series connection and the MOSFET shorts both of them as if they were a single coil?

(Another possibility would be that the two coils gets parallel connected when  the MOSFET is on  i.e.  say the second coil "shorts" the stator coil via the switch, this would be a strange meaning for sure.)

Knowing this correctly helps better figure out a new shematic.

Gyula

[shylo]

Wouldn't they have to be paralleled , to act as one?
Series , the first is always different than the ,2nd.
artv