A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?

[minnie]

It's one of the most promising things I've seen on here.
I just hope it isn't money going to RMS's mind and that
he won't start giving us dubious results.
  I honestly can't see anything ever coming from magnets
and wires that most all are obsessed with.
   What we need to do is harvest energy from the Sun and
move it around and store it. The efficiency of devices has
made major advances, some things requiring a tenth of the
energy that they did when I was a kid.

[MileHigh]

4) He was using a water based electrolyte in his separator,  is this practical to keep a separator wet in production or would he have to use a separator similar to the Li Ion Battery in production. 

He made what I would consider a bizarre statement even though I am just a lay person relative to his graphene based battery research.   He says something about the test being done with a simple water based electrolyte but if he had the proper electrolyte he would get a higher voltage and "much more" out of his test cell.  Really?  Just changing the electrolyte means you can now extract more energy from the chemical compounds?   It sounds fishy to me.

In a semi related manner, Sunvault Energy and Edison Power are supposedly going to show an "electric supercar" within four months based on the batteries and caps etc.  If you do a little digging, the claims on the car are ridiculous and are being completely trashed by both technical people and by the investment community.  It casts a very long and dubious shadow over their "electric supercar" pitch and the two companies themselves.  Robert is on the board of directors of Sunvault Energy.  Sunvault Energy company is a typical penny stock company with big claims and not much to show for it.  Don't hold your breath for the supercar.

Nobody has spotted the main issue, but one person is a little bit warm.   In the comments on the YouTbe clip, not a single person has mentioned it either.  It's almost shocking, like sheep being led off to slaughter.

[MagnaProp]

I wish RMS the best with this endeavor. He has provides a ton of info on Graphene to us that he didn't have to for free. It's good to hear that he is on the board of directors with a company that is trying to bring this to the masses. Even Tesla and his claims were ridiculed at times. Sometimes you have to make a product sound a little flashier than it may ultimately be but that is called marketing and doesn't mean it is a scam. So many people ready to cut you down when the jealously of not coming up with the idea themselves seeps in. It doesn't take long watching Mr. Smith's videos to know that he is the farthest thing from a scam artist. I'd gladly follow him off a cliff before some others I have seen. I wish him the best on this one.

Now to get some gotoluc flyback spikes into these things and we are off to mars

[Jimboot]

He made what I would consider a bizarre statement even though I am just a lay person relative to his graphene based battery research.   He says something about the test being done with a simple water based electrolyte but if he had the proper electrolyte he would get a higher voltage and "much more" out of his test cell.  Really?  Just changing the electrolyte means you can now extract more energy from the chemical compounds?   It sounds fishy to me.

In a semi related manner, Sunvault Energy and Edison Power are supposedly going to show an "electric supercar" within four months based on the batteries and caps etc.  If you do a little digging, the claims on the car are ridiculous and are being completely trashed by both technical people and by the investment community.  It casts a very long and dubious shadow over their "electric supercar" pitch and the two companies themselves.  Robert is on the board of directors of Sunvault Energy.  Sunvault Energy company is a typical penny stock company with big claims and not much to show for it.  Don't hold your breath for the supercar.

Nobody has spotted the main issue, but one person is a little bit warm.   In the comments on the YouTbe clip, not a single person has mentioned it either.  It's almost shocking, like sheep being led off to slaughter.

I'd follow RMS before you MH. No offence but RMS has been very generous with his time and info over the years and always up front whilst encouraging others. Not a slight on you but rigorous support for this bloke. To cast aspersions anonymously says more about you than him. I don't about over there but over here 0.62 is not a penny stock. They are 152% up on the year so I think their investors would be very happy.

[Nink]

I am the worlds biggest skeptic and I don't believe anything until I personally see and touch it (and then I am still skeptical).  I have a lot of respect for Dr Robert Murray Smith, and as I also said, I have replicated a lot of his demonstrations, except when he keeps them secret (and the green, black and electrolyte compounds are secret). In Canada where Sunvault is registered you have one year to file for a patent. The law is similar to the US but they also have a first to file law, so I appreciate everything he posts prior to filing a patent. 

Many here are also healthy skeptics and I agree that the results look a little too amazing.  I would recommend one thing. I posted a quick and easy method to make a supercapacitor  the other day.  OK mine are not as good as Dr Smith for various reasons, (he knows what he is doing and I just copy/augment what others are doing) but the results are still crazy. http://overunity.com/13177/amazing-graphene-super-capacitor/msg466741/#msg466741 

I totally agree these are just bench test results and may not be representative of what is obtainable in production, and I would love to see some scientific reviews of his work in a controlled environment to validate his projected performance, but so far everything looks above water.  As I said, I never get scammed by anyone and I don't believe Robert is out to scam anyone either. The reason he took the job as a director for Sunvault I  believe, was simply out of frustration from not being able to move graphene technology forward.

So if others don't believe the result are as good as he says they are, then lets put them to the test.  He is not claiming overunity or unicorns and pixi dust. All he is claiming is he has developed a graphene  supercapacitor that performs like a battery with a higher power to weight ratio than a lithium ion battery. What he is claiming is not unique and there are dozens of peer reviewed articles on various methods to make supercapacitors, he just believes his is a little more efficient than others and he also has the backing of a company who just may manage to bring this into production.