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Accurate Measurements on pulsed system's harder than you think.

Started by tinman, December 09, 2015, 07:59:10 AM

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digitalindustry

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 12, 2015, 01:42:49 AM
Sure, ask them. Be sure to let me know when you get an answer.

will do , they might be interested i have no idea, I'll find out for you.

hopefully you can ask yourself in the near future?

digitalindustry

Quote from: EMJunkie on December 12, 2015, 01:45:12 AM


Brad, TK and others following - I agree with TK's over all Power Conclusion. We cant be mixing Oranges and Apples if it is just Apples we want to observe.

TK, I think it needs to be said, do you think anything unusual is going on in this circuit?

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

how does one define 'unusual' it's only based on the present set of knowledge any new knowledge is always 'unusual'

TK already said back up there what he thought was 'unusual' re the how around the Cap influence.

TM highlighted an effect where your visual reality is in appearance in opposition  to the data.

that was for me at least 'curious'

EMJunkie

Quote from: digitalindustry on December 12, 2015, 01:54:07 AM
how does one define 'unusual' it's only based on the present set of knowledge any new knowledge is always 'unusual'

TK already said back up there what he thought was 'unusual' re the how around the Cap influence.

TM highlighted an effect where your visual reality is in appearance in opposition  to the data.

that was for me at least 'curious'



@Digital, I am glad you disagree. Please feel free to prove me wrong.

The Data I presented supports what the circuit is doing. TK's data also supports my Data saying the same thing, Bulb is Dimmer because of Less Power, Bulb is Brighter because of more power!!!

Please feel free to show my work as wrong though and I will happily admit I am wrong.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


tinman

Quote from: digitalindustry on December 12, 2015, 01:54:07 AM
how does one define 'unusual' it's only based on the present set of knowledge any new knowledge is always 'unusual'

TK already said back up there what he thought was 'unusual' re the how around the Cap influence.

TM highlighted an effect where your visual reality is in appearance in opposition  to the data.

that was for me at least 'curious'

As shown before digitalindustry,the current trace shows the opposite to what we should see.
Both in mine and TK's scope shot's. TK's scope shot shows no curve on his current trace,indicating that the temperature of the globe remains the same during both the on time and off time
My current trace climbs throughout the whole pulse--this is showing a decrease in resistance,and thus a decrease in temperature of the bulb filament<--the opposite to what should be happening.
The last scope shot is a true wave form that should be seen across the CVR when current is passing through an incandescent bulb,but both DUT's show that is not happening-->why?.


Brad

EMJunkie

Quote from: tinman on December 12, 2015, 02:20:33 AM
As shown before digitalindustry,the current trace shows the opposite to what we should see.
Both in mine and TK's scope shot's. TK's scope shot shows no curve on his current trace,indicating that the temperature of the globe remains the same during both the on time and off time
My current trace climbs throughout the whole pulse--this is showing a decrease in resistance,and thus a decrease in temperature of the bulb filament<--the opposite to what should be happening.
The last scope shot is a true wave form that should be seen across the CVR when current is passing through an incandescent bulb,but both DUT's show that is not happening-->why?.


Brad


Maybe there is some inverted/reversed Wave Data because of placement of the Probes and Grounds of the scope. I can see a resemblance: See Image - But I am only guessing with out knowing the placement of your probes in your new scope shots.

Although not as pronounced, this is expected because of the massive circuit impedance change between circuits. I am guessing though and don't know without the correct circuits being presented!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org