Rotating Magnetic Field's and Inductors.

[picowatt]

I seem to remember carrying out some tests some time ago as per 2 EE's request(one of them now sadly not with us).
Now,if my test showed an under unity result,every one would have been happy-as they would be if Itsu's results were also under unity. But as the results that were calculated (by others) with my test,all sorts of bullshit started to flow--and so i pulled the plug on that.

Tinman,

Are you referring to your RT experiments?  Maybe you had disparaging comments made over in the private threads that I am not aware of, but I only recall one comment in passing from .99 that did not seem at all unreasonable to me, which, to paraphrase, was something like as long as there was no hanky-panky going on at your end (which never even occurred to me), your results were at the least very interesting.  If your decisions were based on that one comment by .99, I think you over reacted a bit.  In fact, it seemed as if you protested a bit too much.

You state that you "pulled the plug".  I thought that plug was pulled by the MIB/WIB/PTB or whoever.  That whole event and its outcome cast more of a cloud of doubt than any measurements ever did.  In fact, I have assumed that if you were not allowed to continue your pursuit of the RT because it was indeed OU and the PTB stopped you, it logically follows that everything else you have made public regarding other paths taken since then must not lead to OU because surely the PTB are still watching you and they have not stopped you from pursuing those directions.

I for one was very interested and quite intrigued by your RT results.  I wish you would have continued those investigations.  Even MarkE was beginning to accept that your measurements, at the very least, were looking quite interesting.

I have said all along MH,you have no room for change,and what i have seen here(and other forums) is that !!most!! of the well educated EE guys are much the same. Verpies and smudge are probably the only two EE guys i know that have an open mind,and not ruled by the book. It is guys like Verpies and Smudge that will go the whole nine yards,and not just dismiss findings as errors just because they are not in line with outdated !!laws!!.

I think this is a bit harsh...

Your "spinning rotor tests" are interesting, maybe not so much so as the RT results, but it does make one wonder why the results are as they appear to be.  You have proposed a few possibilities, as have I and MH.  I do not know how much more time you want to invest toward looking into this further, but there is much that could be done if you wished to do so.  As I said before, any further pursuit of answers is most likely going to require a high resolution study of any small accelerations and decelerations of the rotor and precisely when theses occur over time.  I have offered to post some suggestions regarding methods that will allow you to perform these types of tests if you are interested in doing so.  In fact, at the very least, it would likely make an interesting topic of discussion and there are many brilliant people here that could likely offer additional solutions and refinements related to such tests.

PW

[tinman]

Yes it should do the job.
I can see that you have discovered my pet peeve - inductive CSRs
I just looked into this tread.
Do you still want to do this after Itsu's discovery that the 10μF cap was in fact a 1μF cap ?

Indeed Verpies,i do.
But what i need is a circuit that suits the measuring equipment i have that will show !if any! that the rotor is the source of the energy saved in P/in,or the energy gained in P/out.

I have attached the circuit i was using.

Brad

[poynt99]

I have said all along MH,you have no room for change,and what i have seen here(and other forums) is that !!most!! of the well educated EE guys are much the same. Verpies and smudge are probably the only two EE guys i know that have an open mind,and not ruled by the book. It is guys like Verpies and Smudge that will go the whole nine yards,and not just dismiss findings as errors just because they are not in line with outdated !!laws!!.

There are others here with "open minds", and along with that comes common sense, experience, the education, patience (not jumping to unfounded conclusions), and the presence of mind to analyze and ask the right questions when something doesn't add up.

[tinman]

Tinman,






I think this is a bit harsh...



PW

Are you referring to your RT experiments?  Maybe you had disparaging comments made over in the private threads that I am not aware of, but I only recall one comment in passing from .99 that did not seem at all unreasonable to me, which, to paraphrase, was something like as long as there was no hanky-panky going on at your end (which never even occurred to me), your results were at the least very interesting.  If your decisions were based on that one comment by .99, I think you over reacted a bit.  In fact, it seemed as if you protested a bit too much.

While poynt's comment was-well-upsetting,the worst was yet to come,and from those i considered friends-->and yes,in a private forum.

1-You state that you "pulled the plug".  I thought that plug was pulled by the MIB/WIB/PTB or whoever. 2- That whole event and its outcome cast more of a cloud of doubt than any measurements ever did.

1 was because of 2. The big cloud of doubt(and acusations) came before the plug was pulled.
As i said-there were no gun wielding MIB,they were just normal people that had the ability to make think's -well- interesting you could say. But a loop hole was found,and a way around these !undocumented! restrictions,but that came to an unexpected end,and now i still do not know where things went,or what happened there--i do have some one looking into it for me,but as of yet,have not heard back from them.

In fact, I have assumed that if you were not allowed to continue your pursuit of the RT because it was indeed OU and the PTB stopped you, it logically follows that everything else you have made public regarding other paths taken since then must not lead to OU because surely the PTB are still watching you and they have not stopped you from pursuing those directions.

And nothing i have done has shown any signs of OU--i have been simply showing different !effects!--but no one is paying much attention to them anyway--dismissal seems to be the go around here by most,so were all good.

I for one was very interested and quite intrigued by your RT results.  I wish you would have continued those investigations.  Even MarkE was beginning to accept that your measurements, at the very least, were looking quite interesting.

And some.

Your "spinning rotor tests" are interesting, maybe not so much so as the RT results, but it does make one wonder why the results are as they appear to be.  You have proposed a few possibilities, as have I and MH.  I do not know how much more time you want to invest toward looking into this further, but there is much that could be done if you wished to do so.  As I said before, any further pursuit of answers is most likely going to require a high resolution study of any small accelerations and decelerations of the rotor and precisely when theses occur over time.  I have offered to post some suggestions regarding methods that will allow you to perform these types of tests if you are interested in doing so.  In fact, at the very least, it would likely make an interesting topic of discussion and there are many brilliant people here that could likely offer additional solutions and refinements related to such tests.

I will be doing just this. I will be getting the rest of the parts i need today,and im hoping Verpies is going to throw together a quick schematic that best suits the equipment i have,and one that we can take accurate measurements from.


Brad

[picowatt]

While poynt's comment was-well-upsetting,the worst was yet to come,and from those i considered friends-->and yes,in a private forum.

Sorry to hear that... 

I will be doing just this. I will be getting the rest of the parts i need today,and im hoping Verpies is going to throw together a quick schematic that best suits the equipment i have,and one that we can take accurate measurements from.


Brad

Can your FG do N-cycle or 1/2 cycle bursts triggered from an external input or Fin divided by N?
If you don't know for certain, what's the model number of the FG?

PW