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Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT! New Video!

Started by Just..Sayin.., January 16, 2016, 01:09:01 PM

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MileHigh

Quote from: Just..Sayin.. on January 17, 2016, 10:21:53 AM
It is not a matter of cherry picking anything, I have put forth a legitmate observation of the forces at play in a generator. The torque applied to shaft is consumed in the struggle between the supplied field and the induced field. The source of the current and voltage coming out of the generator is the supplied field. It is not coming from the force that is required to turn the shaft. Yes the input is in exact proportion to the output when the generator is loaded, but there are two entirely different energy interactions in play. The torque applied to the shaft, is not itself transformed into output, that force is used up in the process, the true transformation of energy is between the supplied field and the induced field. The input torque itself is wasted in the process.

The torque is the force required to push against opposing magnetic fields inside the generator.  Power dissipated in the load requires voltage and current.  That current going into the load results in a magnetic field being produced inside the generator.  Another magnetic field pushes against that load-derived magnetic field.  The source for that pushing is the external torque applied to the generator shaft from an external mechanical power source.

When you strip down a generator to its basic elements, you have brute external force pushing a magnet against an electromagnet.  That electromagnet pumps electrical power into a load.

Brute mechanical force times displacement is transformed inside the generator and what comes out the other side is brute voltage and current that goes into a load.

Just..Sayin..

MH, lets agree to disagree and leave it at that, the discussion is going nowhere... it's 'a waste of energy' for both of us... pun intended of course.

Just..Sayin..

Quote from: pulp on January 17, 2016, 02:23:02 AM
Or there is a battery in the box  ;)

Avalon is not a con artist, he is an experienced researcher with a well demonstrated background in resonance research. I assure you there is no fraudulent use of a battery in the box.

Reiyuki

One quick way to confirm.   If you are truly drawing effectively zero current from the grid, you could just find or wind a small 1-1 isolation transformer.

If you're still sucking 300w on the far end of a 10w isolation transformer, congrats ;) .

e2matrix

Quote from: avalon on January 16, 2016, 10:58:39 PM
I remain skeptical too.  I have already mentioned that I would not release anything until I am 100% sure of where the energy is coming from. So far, I cannot answer that question.
BTW, similar to my dumb Kill-A-Watt device, my smart PG&E house meter does not register anything either when I connect the load through the device.
Until I can answer the question above with a reasonable degree of certainty I will simply assume that I've created a cheating device. In that case no details will ever be released.

~A
OK,  I believe now you are not faking anything .... unlike some others here who will always believe it's fake.   But why set yourself up as the one to decide who can and can't have this knowledge?   I think everyone should be able to decide for themselves and take responsibility for their actions if they wanted to cheat.   I doubt anyone here would take that risk anyway but many would replicate and verify.   I think what happens as soon as someone finds something like this is that SURGE of power in you brain you get from knowing you have something no one else has and as they say power corrupts.   We don't need morality police here.  You can buy devices out of China that cheat the meters if that is your inclination.   
     Assuming this is not just a meter fooling situation what happens to this info if you have not shared it with anyone and you are suddenly in an accident or some thing bad happens as I know happens a lot more often in Kalifornia (you mentioned P,G&E so I assume you are there and having spent many years in Kali I know the craziness there).   Not to mention the possibility of getting visits from those who have a great deal to lose if any free energy gets discovered.   It's never really a good choice to withhold such info.