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Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT! New Video!

Started by Just..Sayin.., January 16, 2016, 01:09:01 PM

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Vortex1

The math and the models seem to work beautifully, however the presenters start with assumptions that are not first explained e.g. electron orbital motion.

Accepting the present models and theories of the source of the electron dipole moment, we are still left with a fundamental question i.e. what sustains the electron orbital motion to produce a continuous electric current?

Tapping that "wheelwork" current and the FE quest may be solved.

Examining the extremely high "quality factor" of the earth's spin over many decades, despite a lossy frictional viscous surface induced by the moon's gravitational pull may hold some clues.

tinman

Quote from: Vortex1 on January 18, 2016, 09:03:36 AM
The math and the models seem to work beautifully, however the presenters start with assumptions that are not first explained e.g. electron orbital motion.



Examining the extremely high "quality factor" of the earth's spin over many decades, despite a lossy frictional viscous surface induced by the moon's gravitational pull may hold some clues.

QuoteAccepting the present models and theories of the source of the electron dipole moment, we are still left with a fundamental question i.e. what sustains the electron orbital motion to produce a continuous electric current?

And the very reason i do not think they have the PM theory correct.

QuoteTapping that "wheelwork" current and the FE quest may be solved.

I think a good start would be to find a device that relies on a continual linear force to operate,rather than trying to get a device that requires an alternating force to operate,using a linear force to do it. The PM produces a constant linear force,so we need a device that need's a constant linear force in order for a PM to power it. This !may! include the tapping of this continual current or charge flow carriers.

Do we know of any devices that require a continual linear force in order for them to produce useful energy?-->i can think of one straight of the bat.

Brad

e2matrix

Avalon,  Glad you figured it out and have disclosed your findings.   I still think there is no reason to keep this secret and some good reasons to disclose it.   Many find the Smart meters an invasion of privacy as well as generating unhealthy EMF in a house.   Since this device can fool the smart meters this could give some leverage to eliminate their use if it became widely known how to fool the Smart meters.   I've had an EMF meter for a long time and when they installed a smart meter on a place I was living in another state I found a large increase in EMF in the house and it seemed to be coming from anything that was grounded including some pipes running under the floor. 
See:   http://smartmeterdangers.org/
and   http://emfsafetynetwork.org/smart-meters/smart-meter-health-complaints/

Just..Sayin..

Quote from: e2matrix on January 18, 2016, 11:35:50 AM
Avalon,  Glad you figured it out and have disclosed your findings.   I still think there is no reason to keep this secret and some good reasons to disclose it.   Many find the Smart meters an invasion of privacy as well as generating unhealthy EMF in a house.   Since this device can fool the smart meters this could give some leverage to eliminate their use if it became widely known how to fool the Smart meters.   I've had an EMF meter for a long time and when they installed a smart meter on a place I was living in another state I found a large increase in EMF in the house and it seemed to be coming from anything that was grounded including some pipes running under the floor. 
See:   http://smartmeterdangers.org/
and   http://emfsafetynetwork.org/smart-meters/smart-meter-health-complaints/

That is a very interesting view you have and it has a lot of merit. A lot of merit indeed. The meters can cause cancer and then as a result, net the cancer industry up to 300.000 per patient.

guest1289

     Before he solved it,  did anyone suggest putting distance between the potential  Free-Energy-device( that this thread is based on ),  and any man-made  electrical-conductor or generator,  to see the results    .
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(  In the following ,  I incorrectly refer to conductors emitting photons,  I only type that to make it easier to understand . )

The motion of the electrons creates the magnetic-force in permanent-magnets  and  electromagnets .

    [    I got it wrong a 2 days ago,  I thought that the electrical-current in a conductor,  which causes the conductor to emit photons ( or the material that photons are made of,  you can't see it since it's at a different frequency to light, and has other different properties ),     I thought that that emission of material is what the magnetic-field is composed of.  So I could not understand how permanent-magnets  work,  since they have no reason to emit photons( or the material that photons are made of  .  ]

     However,  I just remembered that an electron has an  electric-field,  and when the electron spins in orbit,  it must magnify or multiply the field,  or something else resulting from it's motion.
     So,  what happens in the electromagnet is that the electrical-current merely polarizes the electron spin orbits in all the atoms( or the atoms themselves ) in the conductor ,   merely turning the conductor into a temporary magnet .
      So,  now I understand how a permanent-magnet  works,   the field is made of the spinning electric-fields of the the spinning-electrons,  ( the orbits of all the atoms are polarized ),  and,  isn't the  electric-field  and  the  magnetic-field  unified  in  the  'theory of relativity'  or another of einstein's  main  theories,  I think it is the   'theory of relativity'  .

I knew it before,  but I had forgotten it .

   [  UPDATE :  I also just remembered, or I could be wrong,  that electrons give of a photon( or the material that photons are made of ) as they go from one energy-level to another energy-level( eg. from a low altitude orbit to a high altitude orbit ),  and I wonder how often they give of these photons( photon material ),  because the electrons and the atoms-core must be hit by photons( photon material ) very regularly,  so  I guess that either,   the electrons-electric-field works by the emission and receivable of photons( or photon material ),  or it's not connected to the   electrons-electric-field    ]
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Quote from: tinman on January 17, 2016, 06:01:14 PM
As i am unfamiliar with your house meter,it is hard to make any comment on this.
I can tell you that when i used my old arc welder out on the farm-where the house meter was the old wheel type,the meter use to spin backwards  ???. There is also a video on youtube from some one else that shows this happening. Im really not sure as to how or why this happened,but it did. This would seem to indicate that more power was flowing back into the grid than was being consumed by the arc welder(some call them stick welders). However- this new digital smart meter that is on the house i am in at the moment !dose! read the power being consumed by the arc welder,and dose not start !reversing! like the old wheel meter did.

Firstly,  what if the the arc-welder( a totally erratic effect ) caused the meter-wheel to do something like hops( like a learner-driver ) which caused the wheel to somehow shift backwards on it's axle.

But,  what if that stream of electrons( or maybe pure electromotive-energy ) running through the air from the arc-welder,  would actually start sucking electrons(  ( or maybe pure electromotive-energy ) of  the  air-molecules,  or maybe from elsewhere .
      - The best comparison I can think of would be imagine a stream of water running through air which is very humid( high water content ), I would assume that that stream of water could possibly attach alot of airborne water and or air/water molecules to itself ( if that would work,  maybe you could dry a room with it ) .

So,  that got me thinking about those claimed free-energy electrostatic-generators( some well-known ones ),  how do they work