Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT! New Video!

[TinselKoala]

There will be no video explaining any electron motion being the cause or giving rise to a permanent magnets magnetic field, or an associated electric field due to the motion of those electrons.

Well, just like "stars invisible from space" and "no moon landings ever happened" and "Armstrong's boots", you will just deny that any evidence presented is valid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7a0M11HIOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khdi996HL5I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3TdF4v6jGU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO0r930Sn_8

And many many more.

Why do I have to do your homework for you?

[Magluvin]

Well, just like "stars invisible from space" and "no moon landings ever happened" and "Armstrong's boots", you will just deny that any evidence presented is valid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7a0M11HIOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khdi996HL5I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3TdF4v6jGU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO0r930Sn_8

And many many more.

Why do I have to do your homework for you?

Feynman is deep.

Mags

[Just..Sayin..]

I don't. I am following the way you suggested in your post exactly.
If the device turn out to be  more than just a cheating box, I will open it up and show.
However, I am not going to promote energy theft for many reasons, if the device will turn up as an elaborate kit to fool the utility.
California or not, basic rules still apply.

~A

Good for you Avalon... I regret not understanding your prudence in this from the beginning.

[tinman]

Well, just like "stars invisible from space" and "no moon landings ever happened" and "Armstrong's boots", you will just deny that any evidence presented is valid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7a0M11HIOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khdi996HL5I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3TdF4v6jGU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO0r930Sn_8

And many many more.

Why do I have to do your homework for you?

When have i said that stars are invisible from space?.
Have you provided 3rd party verification to the moon landing's ?-->a must with all extraordinary claims made. The evidence provided for the moon landings come's from only one source,and that is the source that created the hoax-along with the government. This !no third party! verification go's against everything we insist on in these forums when extraordinary claims are made.

It is like i said in the thread at OUR--those that !!need to believe!! will go against there own insistence on third party verification when it suits them. We did not go to the moon in 1969,and we still cannot go today.

You have provided no evidence that we went to the moon. You have provided only what NASA wanted you to see. Star trek had more truth to it than the moon landing hoax.

The video's you provided are junk-
1- indian you could barely understand
1-kid that was trying to fumble his way through some imaginary science
!!And!! Feynman--Who also made it very clear that he could not explain or knows what the magnetic force is.

Then you only need to look at how the electron orbits the nucleus,and the fact that the electrons of an atom carries a negative charge that is equal to the positive charge of the proton. This results in a zero net gain. The electron will orbit the nucleus the same way always,regardless of any domain alignment. And where is the electric field that is associated with these moving electrons within a permanent magnet?.

You will also note that it was mentioned several times that this is only a theory(what they believe !may! be giving rise to the magnetic field),but are not 100% sure. If they had it all nutted out,then they could provide a very accurate description of what the magnetic force is--but they cannot.

So like the !!moon landings!!,you have provided no solid evidence that the magnetic field is due to some alignment of electron spin. Theories are not facts.

Brad.

[tinman]

 

Here is the video that you said won't exist:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PgE5TE8KI4

It's for a hydrogen atom, big deal.  Note the circular motion equations are from grade 11 Physics.  It's essentially the same thing for an iron atom where you can ignore the inner electrons and just deal with the outermost pair (if I recall correctly) of electrons.

Every iron atom has a calculable magnetic dipole moment.  A magnetic domain is just millions of iron atoms with magnetic dipole moments that are all aligned in the same direction.  All of the magnetic fields from each iron atom do vector addition with all of the other atoms in the magnetic domain to give you a magnetic dipole moment for the entire domain.

A magnet is just a collection of magnetic domains where most of the domains are pointing in the same direction.

A magnet is ultimately just trillions of magnetic fields added together that are produced by trillions of outer electrons in iron atoms that are mostly spinning in the same direction and with the same alignment.

Take a look again, this stuff is all just basic nuts and bolts.

OK,so from you !basic! nuts and bolts stuff,explain in detail as to what the magnetic force is.

You saw the instantaneous magnetic field for a charge moving in a straight line.  It's a no brainer to make the charge one electron and have it move in a circle.  A circle is just millions of short straight lines strung together.

Where are these electric charges and fields within a permanent magnet that move in a straight line? Electrons move in circles ?-->no,electrons do not move in circles.
A circle is just millions of short straight lines strung together
It is also a dead short--no beginning,and no end.

So the magnetic field from a magnet is simply due to moving electrons.

And yet this is ass about to everything else you(and most others) believe in,where as the moving electron is due to a magnetic field that changes with time. When the magnetic field dose not change with time(as with a permanent magnet),then there is no electron motion other than the electrons orbit around the protons in the atomic nucleus.